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Anti-Aging Expert: This Reverses Gray Hair & Boosts Your Energy!

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

July 2, 2026

The Mitochondria Scientist Dr Martin Picard reveals why stress is secretly burning 60% of your daily energy, the science behind reversing grey hair, and why your mitochondria - not your genes - determine how fast you age!
Speakers: Steven Bartlett, Martin Picard, Kevin O'Leary, Johnny Ives
**Steven Bartlett** (0:00)
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**Martin Picard** (0:59)
This is incontrovertible evidence that graying of hair is reversible and it can be pretty fast. Wow. And there's more. So we all walk around with our biological history encoded in your hair. Like for example, if you have marijuana six months ago, it's going to be in your hair.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:14)
I need to get a haircut. Joke.

**Martin Picard** (1:17)
So my research lab had the idea that if we could find what was happening in this person's life, when this young hair becomes old, then we could understand the mechanism of the aging process.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:27)
So what is the secret to anti-aging?

**Martin Picard** (1:29)
It's the proper allocation of energy.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:33)
What's the simplest way you can explain that to me?

**Martin Picard** (1:35)
So first, energy is real. It's the difference between feeling like you can change the world or feeling completely drained. A lot of people live on that end of the spectrum. It's because there's a finite energy budget with a hierarchy of energy needs in the body. For example, we did an experiment because we wanted to know how much energy does it cost to worry about the future, to ruminate about yesterday. And we found that the stress hormone increased energy expenditure by 60%.
So it needs to steal energy from some of the things that keep you young. So it's not the stress that burns us down, it's the response to stress. And the third piece is this, energy is in your mitochondria. And there's about 5,000 trillion mitochondria in your body. And so they made our bodies possible and they can change how we feel.

**Steven Bartlett** (2:17)
Well, I read that studies on brains of dead people have found that those with greater chance of purpose have more efficient mitochondria.

**Martin Picard** (2:25)
Yes, we are really in service of the mitochondria. They allow us to be alive.

**Steven Bartlett** (2:30)
Okay, I've got so many questions for you based on what people wanted to know. Like how patients with ME, chronic fatigue or long COVID safely rehabilitate their mitochondria. What I consume, how does that impact the efficiency of the energy? If red light therapy impacts mitochondria, and is there anything I can do to have more energy available? But before that, I've heard you say that most diseases or disorders can be explained by understanding energy resistance.

**Martin Picard** (2:54)
Yeah, we think there's increased energy resistance in cancer, in Alzheimer's. Like fundamentally diabetes is a disease of energy resistance.

**Steven Bartlett** (3:01)
So is there anything I can do?

**Martin Picard** (3:03)
There is. So we can start by...

**Steven Bartlett** (3:08)
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Martin Picard, what is it that you believe, know or understand that most people out there don't believe, know or understand?

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