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Anti-Aging Expert (Peter Attia): Anti-aging Cure No One Talks About! 50% Chance You’ll Die In A Year If This Happens! Boost Testosterone Naturally Without TRT!

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

April 7, 2025

Dr. Peter Attia is a physician, researcher, and the bestselling author of ‘Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity’.
Speakers: Peter Attia, Steven Bartlett
**Peter Attia** (0:00)
Death is inevitable, but the rate of decline is very much up to us. The drawback that young people have is they only begin to realize the inevitability of the decline when it besets them. So your team that came in for testing, that are in their 20s, when I'm looking at these results, there were issues that were uncovered, that were a concern, and ignoring it doesn't lead to a good outcome when you're 65 But a lot of people have this issue, so it's okay to speak freely about this.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:25)
The biggest concern is that Dr. Peter Attia is the go-to physician for high performers, celebrities, and anyone serious about unlocking the science behind a longer, stronger, healthier life.

**Peter Attia** (0:35)
I had a big epiphany at a funeral of a friend of mine, who I realized had declined so much during their last decade that when they couldn't do those things that gave them pleasure because of injuries, aches and pains, they weren't enjoying life. I call it the marginal decade.

**Steven Bartlett** (0:50)
Wow, okay, so what are the most important parts of my health that I should be thinking about for longevity?

**Peter Attia** (0:54)
So there's muscle mass, muscle strength, but we don't have a single metric that we can measure that better predicts how long they will live than how high their VO2 max is, which is the maximum amount of oxygen you can consume. And if you compare somebody who is in the top 2% to someone who is in the bottom 25%, there is a 400% difference in their all-cause mortality over the coming year.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:15)
But how do I know if it's an issue or not?

**Peter Attia** (1:17)
We'll go into much more detail around that, but the way to avoid this is to train specifically for that marginal decade. And there's so many things that we just do wrong. The sooner you start, the better. So rule number one.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:31)
I find it incredibly fascinating that when we look at the back end of Spotify and Apple and our audio channels, the majority of people that watch this podcast haven't yet hit the follow button or the subscribe button wherever you're listening to this. I would like to make a deal with you. If you could do me a huge favour and hit that subscribe button, I will work tirelessly from now until forever to make the show better and better and better and better. I can't tell you how much it helps when you hit that subscribe button. The show gets bigger, which means we can expand the production, bring in all the guests you want to see and continue to do in this thing we love. If you could do me that small favour and hit the follow button, wherever you're listening to this, that would mean the world to me. That is the only favour I will ever ask you. Thank you so much for your time. Back to this episode.
Dr. Peter Attia, what is keeping you busy at the moment in terms of the subjects that you wrote about in Outlive, but the work that you do online and the work you do in the variety of businesses that you have, what is keeping you fascinated at the moment? Like what is one's mind focus on?

**Peter Attia** (2:30)
I wish I could say one thing. There's probably a few things and maybe that's not good. Maybe the most successful people in life only think about one thing. I would say one of the things I'm thinking a lot about is how to translate Outlive into a delivery system, obviously digitally, that basically operationalizes what is in that book in a manner that allows people to, with as little friction as possible, implement the solutions for themselves. So basically, how do you live a longer life? How do you age as gracefully as possible and maximize your health span? I think the other thing I'm focused on that is related to that, of course, but distinct, which I know your team got to participate in a little bit this week, was kind of how to train people for their marginal decade, right? So this idea of we're all going to have a last decade of life. I call it the marginal decade just so that we can get comfortable talking about something that people don't like to think about. And I'm convinced that ignoring it and not thinking about it doesn't lead to a good outcome. Instead, if you prepare for it and train for it, like an athlete trains and prepares for their sport, you'll have the best version of that possible.

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