Anthropic Files $965B IPO, Trump Signs AI Executive Order, and ChatGPT Crosses 1B Users | EP #262

**Peter Diamandis** (0:00)
Anthropic just confidentially filed IPO paperwork with SEC and could be the first major frontier lab to go public. Polymarket gives it a 60% chance that Anthropic surpasses $1.8 trillion in market cap on its first day.

**Dave Blundin** (0:13)
Anthropic is only 5,000 people. You're talking about an insane amount of money divided 5,000 ways. This group of companies can do thousands of billion dollar acquisitions.

**Emad Mostaque** (0:23)
You've never seen revenue growth like this.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:25)
President Trump just signed an executive order that basically says America is not going to slow down on AI. This is the US planting its flag and saying, we compete, we don't constrain.

**Emad Mostaque** (0:37)
I think the US government realized a year or two ago that AI is key to full spectrum dominance.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:45)
OpenAI finally passed a billion monthly active users. Nothing in history has scaled this fast.

**Emad Mostaque** (0:51)
It's crazy to think you're just at the start, right? Intelligence is going to go to every single person and will be accessible to them. Who is your Jarvis? That is actually the only game in town.

**Dave Blundin** (1:05)
Now that's the Moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:10)
Welcome, everybody, to another episode of WTF Just Happened in Tech on the Moonshots. I'm here with my incredible Moonshot mates, DB2, the Wizard of Investment. Hey, buddy, good to see you.

**Dave Blundin** (1:21)
Good to see you, too.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:22)
You got a new shirt on today, I see. What's it say?

**Dave Blundin** (1:24)
Every day a new shirt. Thanks to the team here. I'm heading off to SF tonight, or tomorrow morning, too. So I got to dress the part.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:33)
I love it. And AWG, our in-house polymath, Alex. I see you in your normal garb.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (1:40)
Thank goodness. Good to be back.

**Dave Blundin** (1:42)
Normal orchid. Lack of doing well.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (1:45)
Totally original environment. It may be real. It may not be. It's unclear.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:50)
And a long-time friend and mate, Emad Mostaque, the founder and CEO of Intelligent Internet, Emad, thank you for joining us. It's late there in the UK. But hey, you know, sleep is for other people, not for those living through the singularity.

**Dave Blundin** (2:06)
How many pints into the evening are you, Emad?

**Emad Mostaque** (2:09)
A couple.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:09)
A couple.

**Emad Mostaque** (2:10)
You know, I have to with everything that's going on.

**Dave Blundin** (2:13)
Yeah, well, when you see this news, yep, you'll be glad.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:15)
Yeah. And Salim Itzmail, of course, is a probability function someplace on the planet. Salim, we miss you wherever you might be traveling. Come back soon. I'm Peter Diamandis, your host, your abundance amplifier. We've got a loaded show today, some 18 plus stories and some of the biggest developments in AI, longevity, the future of work.
This is no doom, no gloom. This is about science, the tech and the money accelerating us towards the singularity. Let me give you a quick preview of what we're going to be discussing. Trump just signed an AI executive order that rejects heavy regulation and asked the labs to voluntarily share their models 30 days before release. ChatGPT finally hit 1 billion monthly active users. Big News, Anthropic filed for its S1, a trillion dollar plus IPO. And Bernie Sanders wants a piece of that IPO, suggesting that public companies, that the public should own 50% of AI companies through a sovereign wealth fund. Finally, we'll close with three multi-billion dollar longevity news stories. Gone are the million dollar stories and we're into billions and trillions now. All right, let's jump in to our first story here from the White House. President Trump just signed an executive order that basically says America is not going to slow down on AI. No heavy-handed regulations, no permission-based frameworks. Instead, the order asks AI labs to voluntarily give government access to new models 30 days before public release.
Sam Altman said the new EO gets the balance right. Anthropic said they're on board too. Meanwhile, agencies are being directed to deploy AI-powered cyber defense across government systems. This is the US planting its flag and saying we compete, we don't constrain.
Alex, do you want to jump in first?

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (4:04)
I think this is sort of a signpost to Canary, if you will, that a lot of previous to now governmental functions, such as discovering zero days at scale, which the NSA historically performed, are now de facto privatized and this is downstream of that. So we have the so-called mythos moment, which I think was in no small part inspiration for this executive order, that basically took some of the core R&D activities that would have been in the NSA discovering breakthrough cyber vulnerabilities and has commodified them to the point where there is a model, mythos and probably GPT 5.5 as well, with mythos widely reported to be about to be broadly released and certainly mythos has become more and more accessible both now across the EU and certainly within the US to the private sector and you have to ask the question, just the thought experiment, what's the right way for the executive to respond when there are private sector capabilities with dramatic national security implications? I'll add parenthetically, cyber vulnerabilities are just what's possible now. Imagine at some point in the future when there are breakthrough biological, chemical, physical and other discoveries and inventions that come out of private sector models and not out of government laboratories. What is the right policy for the executive to have to protect national security? I think that this is such a delicate balance between, on the one hand, not wanting to throttle American innovation. A 90-day delay could have meant all the difference between the US and Chinese models. On the other hand, not being involved enough in the process and not getting pre-release review capabilities, however voluntary or otherwise, could have a profound impact, positive or negative, on national security.