**John Coogan** (0:00)
Obviously, Ms. Strahl is in the news.
Incredibly bullish for Ms. Strahl. Obviously, very unfortunate drama happening in the anthropic world. We'll go through all of that. But if the sovereign AI thesis could not get any stronger right now, this weekend really showed a lot of countries, hey, maybe we do want a national champion. Hey, maybe we do want someone that will provide us models forever. SpaceX IPO, we have Gavin Baker joining in 30 minutes. And we're recapping UFC Freedom 250 It happened at the White House last night. Jordi, take us through your reactions. Introduce our first guest of the show.
**Jordi Hays** (0:40)
Okay, quick intro on the event overall. I am a UFC fan. It's one of the few sports, maybe the only sport, where I actually know the names of the people that are competing.
Our guest in just a few minutes is one of those people.
**John Coogan** (0:55)
Are you more of a fan of the UFC or more of a fan of the government? Because a lot of people were watching just because they're fans of the government and they said, oh, I will watch anything. I watch C-Span all day long. I watch anything that happens if it involves the government. This was an interesting cross-up.
**Jordi Hays** (1:10)
No, more seriously, as a UFC fan and as an American, I'm excited for the UFC to do well. I'm excited for the fighters to have a platform. I was a little bit wary of this event overall. Just because the aesthetics of putting on this crazy party.
**John Coogan** (1:30)
High stakes.
**Jordi Hays** (1:31)
In this moment when there is a ton to BlackPill about.
**John Coogan** (1:35)
Yeah.
**Jordi Hays** (1:35)
Not after-
**John Coogan** (1:36)
Interest rates, wars, all this other stuff going on.
**Jordi Hays** (1:39)
And yeah, so war raging, gas prices are high, house prices are high, rates are going up. A lot of people in America are not having a good time. And it really felt like a bread and circuses moment.
**John Coogan** (1:52)
Sure.
**Jordi Hays** (1:52)
But the bread and circuses, John, they worked on me.
**John Coogan** (1:56)
Top notch.
**Jordi Hays** (1:56)
It worked on me. Some of the best ever.
It was-
**John Coogan** (2:00)
Why was it so good compared to a normal UFC event?
**Jordi Hays** (2:02)
Well, you didn't watch. So I guess it's hard.
**John Coogan** (2:06)
Was it the aesthetics or the actual-
**Jordi Hays** (2:07)
Well, so one, the production value, one, the card was absolutely stacked. It was eight fights, no filler, wall to wall.
Really, really fights that had a lot of- they carried a lot of weight. So like the main title fight, Gagey versus Ilya Topuria, that changed both fighters' careers, full stop.
Even with Bo Nicol joining in just a few minutes, Bo, that was the biggest possible stage that any athlete could be on, especially in the UFC, at least here in America. So anyways, going into it, I thought the aesthetics were bad. I was excited to watch the fights. It turned out it was just really cool. And sure, there's still going to be people that are upset that the president and the admin is like platforming something like this. Turned out to be really fun. It was a cool night, and I think America kind of needed it.
**John Coogan** (3:06)
Yeah. A lot of people are saying it's not unprecedented because Teddy Roosevelt held a boxing match in the White House almost 100 years ago, around that time, and apparently he fought in the boxing match, which is crazy.
**SPEAKER_3** (3:19)
Yeah, he was a big boxer.
**John Coogan** (3:21)
He was a big boxer. And so imagine, imagine.
So this is like a light, light craziness. Anyway.
**Jordi Hays** (3:27)
But anyways, yeah, I, you know, the event was incredible, and I came away thinking that big parties and sporting events are potentially the most underutilized political strategy, right? I would actually expect the, the admin's like overall popularity to go up, approval rating to go up based on, based just on this event. Cause there were so many iconic images. Funny enough, the most iconic image is of a Brazilian named Diego, Diego Lopez, which we had up on the screen there.
**John Coogan** (3:58)
Standing up on that.
**Jordi Hays** (3:59)
But, but anyways, really, really wild.
**John Coogan** (4:03)
So the other big topic over the UFC was the fact that Dario Ahmade was not in attendance. He wasn't front row. Mark Zuckerberg was. And it sort of underscores this odd situation that Anthropic's in where like, they just got dealt this weird hand where like, they're doing so well and the admin could not be more misaligned aesthetically with Anthropic.
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