Another day, another bailout? August 14, 2026

**SPEAKER_1** (0:02)
A LISTNER production.

**Scott Phillips** (0:04)
Shares, the S&P, the ISX, stocks.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:07)
This is Motley Fool Money.

**Scott Phillips** (0:10)
Welcome to Motley Fool Money, the podcast that is only weeks away, I'm sure, from a $2.5 billion bailout by the federal government. I'm Scott Phillips from the Motley Fool, he is Andrew Ram Page, the man for whom, well, it's synonymous with strawman.com. Sorry, it's Premier Online Investment Club.
I mean, what else do you say about a business that clearly is the next ASX unicorn? There's not much other than, if you're not already on the inside, what are you waiting for? You are missing out. Mr. Page, g'day.

**Andrew Page** (0:39)
G'day, mate. We don't hear much about unicorns these days.

**Scott Phillips** (0:43)
No, it's funny how things move, hey? Green shoots is one of those kind of phrases we use for ages that kind of fell away. Bifurcated economy, two-speed economy, green shoots.
What else? What else? Unicorns.

**Andrew Page** (0:55)
After we log off, I'll think of 20, but I'm reaching into that barrel and nothing's coming up.

**Scott Phillips** (1:01)
It's hard to keep up with it all.

**Andrew Page** (1:02)
There's always some new term, you know?

**Scott Phillips** (1:04)
Well, that's kind of my point. It's like, and that's, I mean, that's media consumption generally, but particularly in our space. It's like our brains, we haven't got room for more than a couple of kind of key big concepts. AI is everywhere now, it's crowding out everything else.

**Andrew Page** (1:17)
Isn't it?

**Scott Phillips** (1:17)
What? But it's like, that's, you know, you don't live at unicorns, though. They're literally not real. Oh, unicorns, they're not a thing.
I know it's rare. I get the idea of rarity. It's just kind of like you go to something that's actually rare.

**Andrew Page** (1:32)
You know, that's really rare when there's literally zero.

**Scott Phillips** (1:36)
I built a unicorn. So you built a fake thing that doesn't exist.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:39)
No, no, no, that's not a unicorn.

**Scott Phillips** (1:40)
It's not a unicorn.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:42)
I'm going for it.

**Andrew Page** (1:44)
I used to rail about it back in the day, but it's a little bit. It's actually this is actually one of those terms that really used to get under my collar. And then it just stuck. It actually still used to that, which is cost of living.
And I was just going, no, it's inflation.

**Scott Phillips** (1:57)
It's inflation. Yes, you did. I remember.

**Andrew Page** (2:01)
No, no, no, it's cost of living. Like, okay.
But now I catch myself saying it too, so it's just stuck.

**Scott Phillips** (2:10)
We all do. And the other thing, by the way, it's cost of living crisis. It's got to be a crisis. If there's an unprecedented use of the word unprecedented, then there's a crisis of crises, everything's a crisis. It's not a housing crisis. Right, exactly. It's all that sort of, you know, it'll be an unemployment crisis at some point, it'll be an economic crisis to follow. House price crisis is the property crisis, is the challenge right now.
It's a funny old world.

**Andrew Page** (2:33)
Which, by the way, that's not to, for a second, gloss over the very real challenges in that space, but that's your point. Everything is, it's sort of, words lose meaning when you throw them around a bit too loosely, you know? It's, yeah, one day they'll, I mean, these are very, again, you know, me, I think these are extraordinarily very serious kind of issues. And probably crisis does work for some of them, but it's just when it gets applied to everything, it just, the meaning gets deadened a bit.

**Scott Phillips** (3:01)
Now, the problem with crisis, and it's a massive tangent, is you end up, the more hyperbolic term you use, the more you end up arguing the term rather than the issue. Yes, yes. So if I've seen it written or read, I try not to use it because it is that sort of thing. What I do, I never get someone to say, it's not really a crisis. And then you have this conversation about, is it actually a crisis, rather than-

**Andrew Page** (3:23)
It's a semantic debate.

**Scott Phillips** (3:24)
Right, and it becomes about the term, not about the issue. And so I kind of try to use it because it is that, hyperbole, if it works, can be super effective, but it's also super polarizing. And it just, it can kind of demean the whole conversation. Hey, well, can I share some of this with you? So I just asked Chet Chippity because of what we do in research.