Topics: Society & Culture, Health & Fitness
**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
What's happening, people? Welcome back to the show. My guest today is Joe Navarro. He's a former FBI agent, author, and a world expert in body language. Becoming an exceptional communicator is a superpower. No matter what your job or goals in life, the better you are at communicating, the better your outcomes will be. Joe led the FBI's Non-Verbal communication division and SWAT operations whilst catching and turning spies for 25 years. Today, we get to hear his best advice. Expect to learn the biggest mistakes people make when setting up to talk to someone in a room, why self-awareness can save lives, how to control your emotions more effectively, how to de-escalate an intense confrontation, how to be better at small talk and much more. These guys, man, that have been in the Bureau or the CIA or some sort of special forces for years, they have an unlimited number of stories. It's crazy, it feels like they've been alive for a thousand generations and they've just got this endless bucket that they can dip into. Joe is a sick guy and there's tons to take away from today. I didn't realize about the furrowing of the brow or the way that you're supposed to sit adjacent to someone when you try and have a conversation to get something out of them in a room. Whether you're a boss trying to have better interviews or someone who's constantly having conversations with people where you might need them to be on side, I think there's a lot of tactics that you can use from today. In other news, this episode is brought to you, actually before this episode is brought to you by, go to the Modern Wisdom Community on Locals. A thousand people have joined already, which is berserk. There are a thousand members in a week on the Modern Wisdom Locals. It's a community where we can discuss every episode when it goes up. I've already asked for suggestions for what I should do for episode 400
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