An Absolutely Horrific Patriots Loss, the Rams-49ers Travel Bowl, and Hottest Takes With Craig Horlbeck, Danny Heifetz, and Danny Kelly

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I want to thank you guys who did the re-watchables this week, Tal Daganites. This seemed like such a great idea. Pat Seahawks' opening night, Sam Darnold gets hurt in the first series, which kind of sucked, and it felt like the season parted for the New England Patriots. AJ. Brown goes down.

Drake May has three turnovers down the stretch. The Patriots blow the game. I feel like my season is over, guys. I don't know. Craig, you want to start? I just feel like we're going 6-11 now. We're so depressed.

Craig Horlbeck (2:41)

We just did Talladega Nights and Drake May did kind of look like Ricky Bobby in his underwear, running around. Help me, Tom Cruise!

Bill Simmons (2:53)

They played scared and they thought 10 points was going to win the game for two solid hours, including right before halftime when it felt like they could have gone for the jugular. And they just kind of left the door open for everything that happened. Danny, you're a Seahawks fan, Danny Kelly. As you're watching that, are you surprised the Patriots are letting them hang around like that? What are you thinking?

Danny Kelly (3:13)

I was a little shocked at the lack of aggressiveness on third downs in particular. I feel like the one that you're mentioning, I believe, they just ran like a draw on third and five, settled for...

Bill Simmons (3:21)

At midfield.

Danny Kelly (3:22)

Yeah. Settled to punt. They thought they were in control of the game. And I mean, for a little while they were. And then this is what happens when you let teams hang around with a really good defense and they've got some turnovers.

I thought, yeah, I thought, and I thought for... I don't really have a lot of confidence in Drew Lock as like a quarterback long term. But I thought that Brian Fleury, the Seahawks new offensive coordinator, did a pretty good job of managing it for him in this game. So that was encouraging. I thought he had finished 16 to 22 So he was...

Bill Simmons (3:50)

No picks, right?

Craig Horlbeck (3:51)

No turnovers, nothing.

Danny Kelly (3:52)

One touchdown, no picks. I think that play call to do the play action on fourth down, give it to JSN where he scored that touchdown. I thought that was a ballsy play call.

But yeah, I mean, this is what happens when you let teams with really good defenses hang around, the CX defense. I think I was texting the guys, like, CX defense needs to get a big play. And then immediately after that, they got that pick. And they just kind of got rolling.

Bill Simmons (4:14)

Heifetz, we didn't know each other when the helmet catch happened. This is like 40% of what I looked like.

Danny Heifetz (4:20)

I've never been happier to be on this show. I've always wanted to be here after an absolute Patriots meltdown.

Bill Simmons (4:27)

Well, it happened.

Danny Heifetz (4:28)

It's the worst Patriots loss I've seen in seven, eight months.

Bill Simmons (4:32)

There it is.

Danny Heifetz (4:33)

Bill, first of all, in honor of Cousin Sal, who couldn't be here tonight, Drake Maybe for Drew Locke. Who says no, Bill?

Bill Simmons (4:40)

The Drake Maybe. I did have Sal in my head. This really could. If the Cowboys are good, and Drake Maybe just completely goes into a tailspin this year.