AI’s 10% Chance of Human Extinction: What You Need to Know

Michael Zuber (0:01)

All righty, folks, apparently, the people at Anthropic and Open AI are now saying the quiet part out loud. What is that?

They basically believe that there is a greater than 10% chance that AI will kill all human life in the next 10 years. We're gonna talk about this crazy thought process. We're gonna talk to two guys that are A, not engineers, but B, sold this technology for over 30 years combined. And Matt, I gotta ask you again, all over my ex feed this morning, Anthropic person quits in disgust because he believes not enough is being done to save humanity, and AI is gonna be the death to all of us. What do you think when you hear headlines like that?

Matt (0:46)

Better have a cord that you can kick out of the socket.

Michael Zuber (0:50)

Still needs power, right?

Matt (0:52)

Still gotta have power.

I think it's how much life ends up imitating Hollywood, right? And these futuristic ideas and what that actually ends up looking like. I sold the stuff as you did. I sold it for a long time. You see how it can be a huge help. And so what we used to do is we used to automate human process. And the reason that we did that was because companies had to reduce error rates and they had to increase productivity.

And so people then wonder where all these amazing profits come from. They come from companies like IBM firing 8,000 people in their HR department.

So you'll see more of that. And essentially, that is my play for jobs. That's my play for jobs. It's a long swing, but I think we get to, like I said, I still think we get into the fives. We're starting to see some structural cracking now, for sure.

We're back to most guys looking at it and saying, we're going to have to make cuts if we're going to make our revenue projections, which seems like it might not be, which seems like it might be counterintuitive. But yeah, I think that, you know, AI is, it's the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And I think that you never get something for nothing. And so there's definitely going to be a trade-off. I was working with a company yesterday, and I, I call my competition. In my market, I call the other, I call the other guys that do what I do. And they used, they swapped over to AI. And it's pure garbage.

Michael Zuber (2:41)

Oh, yeah.

Matt (2:41)

Oh, it's been pure garbage. I'm just like, this sucks. Like your satisfaction rate with your clients is going to go into the toilet.

Michael Zuber (2:49)

Yeah.

Matt (2:50)

And so-

Michael Zuber (2:50)

See my experience with Southwest Airlines, never flying them again.

Matt (2:54)

Yeah, exactly. It's horrible. It's horrible. So yeah, it's scary stuff. You know, we'll wait and we'll see what happens. I mean, the government doesn't really do anything well.

Michael Zuber (3:04)

Well, yeah, I actually have a couple of thoughts. I mean, because I have so many things running around my head.

Matt (3:08)

Yeah.

Michael Zuber (3:09)

First and foremost, if, and again, I don't believe these stats, but apparently this smart person does. Yep. If there was any technology that had a greater than 10 percent chance of killing all human life in the next 10 years, wouldn't it be prudent for all governments of the world to kill said technology? I mean, wouldn't that make total sense? It would. Okay. I'm just curious if that's worth... If you really thought that was going to be... It's sort of like the rise of the Nazis. If you saw it coming, don't you think you would step in front of that and stop that wave? Yeah.

So again, the more that these loud mouths say stupid shit like this and spin up all the US citizens, we are not going to build data centers, because your point earlier, kick out the plug. Well, you know what? What's better than kicking out the plug? Don't build the data center.

Don't give them the power. And Bernie Sanders and that ilk like him, which I can never agree with anything Bernie says, or at least not that I can remember, he's going to be proven right. If you jackasses keep saying 10 percent of chance that all of us die, Bernie's going to get bans on data centers. It's just, it has to happen.

Matt (4:19)

I mean, you would think, right? You would think, and you would think. It's like, it's already out of Pandora's box already, right? It's already out. And so, and it gets unbelievably smarter every day that passes. I'm amazed, because I've been a Chet GPT user for a long time. I'm amazed at how much better this version is versus the first version that we got access to.