AI Self-Finishing To-Do List, Podcast Kayfabe & War With Kara Swisher

**Sam Parr** (0:00)
So somebody's going to build a to-do list app that will actually do your to-do list. And I think that's going to be insane. I think that's going to be like, you know how like Evernote was like kind of big for a little while, these kind of like note-taking apps have gotten to like the few billion dollars. A to-do list app that actually does your to-dos is like next level.

**Shaan Puri** (0:26)
All right, we're live. Dude, I have a bunch of interesting stuff to talk to you about today. Do you?

**Sam Parr** (0:34)
Yeah, I got a couple things. All right, I'm gonna give you an idea. So, I don't know how much you've been paying attention to, I guess, how much do you pay attention to the new stuff in AI? Because I feel like there's a 48-hour cycle where your mind is gonna be blown every 48 hours with something new. And on Twitter, you get to see a lot of the demos. I don't know if you have a chance to play with any of these things yourself, but...

**Shaan Puri** (0:59)
I've seen a bunch of them. Which one are you talking about?

**Sam Parr** (1:01)
So, there's one that's kind of interesting right now. It's called AutoGPT. Have you heard of this?

**Shaan Puri** (1:06)
No.

**Sam Parr** (1:07)
Or BabyAGI.

**Shaan Puri** (1:08)
Oh, I just saw it on the top of Hacker News today.

**Sam Parr** (1:10)
So basically, AGI is general artificial intelligence. So it's basically when AI could do anything. Right now, like self-driving or getting the robot to pick up boxes and put them in the right spot, that's narrow AI.
General AI is when you have a computer program that you get to talk to and it could just figure out how to do it. It's not trained in any one specific thing.

**Shaan Puri** (1:32)
What's the URL? What's the URL to go to?

**Sam Parr** (1:36)
Well, it's not so simple. So this is like a GitHub project right now that some guy uploaded. So what somebody did was they took ChatGPT, which most people have heard of because ChatGPT is like has 100 million plus users signed up in two months, which makes it I think the fastest growing product of all time.
And by the way, like look at this. This tweet basically shows the Google Trends search traffic for the following terms. Metaverse, Ethereum, Web3, and ChatGPT. And it's just like ChatGPT is like a vertical line. It's like, I don't know, 10x bigger than, it's 50x bigger than what Web3 search traffic was. It's four times more than Ethereum has ever had.

**Shaan Puri** (2:21)
Oh my God.

**Sam Parr** (2:22)
Which is kind of a crazy thing. And so like right now, ChatGPT is searched more than Taylor Swift on Google. It's just like kind of insane.

**Shaan Puri** (2:31)
I think the CEO of Google said, like the other day he goes, this is more important than the invention of electricity.

**Sam Parr** (2:40)
Yeah, I heard the CEO of Microsoft divorced his wife and just married ChatGPT. People are getting kind of crazy now days. And so anyways, big deal, ChatGPT. You go to it, you basically, you tell it, you talk to it, it gives you an answer. Talk to it, it gives you an answer. What the auto GPT or baby AGI thing did was-

**Shaan Puri** (2:59)
Is it mini, mini GPT?

**Sam Parr** (3:01)
No.

**Shaan Puri** (3:01)
Baby.

**Sam Parr** (3:02)
It's auto and baby AGI. But the premise between these is that you can kind of give it tasks. So you could say, hey, I wanna make a website for my personal portfolio. Here's a folder with my files and I want it to look like whatever. And then what it will do is it breaks that task down into steps, just like a human would. You'd say, well, first you need to make a simple portfolio site. You can go to Squarespace and do that. Go to Squarespace, sign up, choose a template, now you have your template. Now you need to upload your photos. First, upload them to their drive and then drag them into the right spots.

**Shaan Puri** (3:42)
Yeah, it's like looking up a recipe. It gives you good directions.

**Sam Parr** (3:45)
But that just gives you good directions. It does the direction.

**Shaan Puri** (3:48)
That's what I mean. That's the original. That's how how OpenAI stuff.

**Sam Parr** (3:52)
Yeah, ChatGPT, you could say, what are the steps to do this? And it would tell you the steps. Now you got to go do it. What these other ones are trying to do, they're trying to create like agents. They call them basically it's like a little worker that could do a task. And then one worker can the work of one worker, like creating the Squarespace site, can pass something to the next worker, which basically says, oh great, you gave me the login to a Squarespace site. My job is to upload photos into it and I'll upload photos. Maybe my example is not so good here, but I think people get the idea, which is you want to get something done, it's a multi-step process. Not only will it now tell you the steps, you can get it to just do the steps, which is obviously better than it telling you how to do it. And so this is kind of a crazy thing, and it's not great yet, like you can't do everything, but the fact that it can even do a little bit of this shows you, again, where this is going, because ChatGPT is like, I don't know, what, like six months old or something like that? Like, I don't know how old that is, but it's not even been around for years. And so in a very short amount of time, we've gotten to this point where, oh, now it doesn't just give you directions, it can kind of do it, which got me thinking about an idea.