AI Kills Everybody or Doomer Psyop? OpenAI's Math Breakthrough, Nike's $200B Collapse

**David Sacks** (0:00)
The PsiOp canceled on us? Is that what happened?

**Jason Calacanis** (0:01)
Yeah, the PsiOp canceled. He couldn't take the smoke. He did not want to be cross-examined by David Sacks. I haven't used my legal degree in 25 years.

**David Sacks** (0:11)
I was up all night doing research on this.

**David Friedberg** (0:15)
We can still talk about it.

**David Sacks** (0:16)
I'm so ready. Yeah.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:35)
Sacks, we have to talk about Anthropic. A researcher just quit over AI fears that he thinks could kill us all. Jacob Coxen worked as a researcher at OpenAI, then Anthropic over the past three years.
Now, he only started at Anthropic six weeks before resigning. After quitting, he posted the following to X, quote, the people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. Quote, neither OpenAI or Anthropic, ostensibly, is acting responsibly. They're not acting responsibly, Sacks. Quote, they are racing straight to self-improving super intelligence and gambling.
Gambling with our lives. This went insanely viral. I haven't seen a tweet go to 150 million views since Elon said he was going to put the cocaine back in Coca-Cola, which I think was the number one tweet of all time.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:33)
But Jason, can you actually explain to me, how does somebody who doesn't have any followers or an account show up on Monday and get 110 million views on a Tuesday, how does that algorithmically happen?

**Jason Calacanis** (1:45)
That's a great question. We're going to get into it. Evan Hubinger, who leads Alignment Science at Anthropic, responded to Jacob, quote, Jacob is correct here. We really do earnestly believe I could kill all humans. Explanation point. I personally think it is over 10 percent within the next decade.
We do not yet have a plan to solve alignment. These two posts, 200 million combined, and it immediately jumped, as I mentioned last week, these things are now jumping from X and the AI community to the nightly news in under 24 hours. Bernie Sanders, never the one to waste a crisis, said posts like this are the reason he's proposing legislation to ban, BAN banned superintelligence, and pause AI development. Governor JB. Pritzker replied to this post saying, it's time to sound the alarm louder on reigning in AI. Sacksypoo, as our former czar of AI, do you share everyone's concern here that we're all going to die by 2030?

**David Sacks** (2:55)
No, I don't. And look, there's nothing new here. This is the same Doomer histrionics we've been hearing from this crowd for a long time. And the media is calling him a whistleblower, but what evidence has he brought forward that we didn't have? This is all just vibes from him. Show us the data, show us the report, show us the leaked information that the public didn't already have. Show us the facts, show us the evidence. We don't have any of that. In fact, as Chamath was alluding to, this appears to be an op. How do we know that? Well, first of all, if this is an account that had almost no activity, almost no followers and no posts prior to this resignation tweet storm, if he did have prior posts, they were scrubbed. So this was a completely blank account. And somehow, within a day, it finds this huge audience. Elon has said it never happened before. And we also know who amplified it in the first 15 minutes. So there were basically three of these well-organized, well-funded Doomer groups who amplified it. So Nathan Calvin, who's the General Counsel at Encode AI, they're the group that basically pushed for SB53 in California. They're pushing for all these state-level AI laws. Peter Willdeford, who's head of policy at the AI Policy Network, which is pushing for all these federal regulations, having a federal department of AI.
And then Daniel Koka-Tayo, who's head of the AI Futures Project, who just happened to drop a Rogan episode at the same time, in which he used the exact same phraseology about how AI is going to kill us all. And all three of these groups are funded by Jan Tallin, who is one of the top few of these EA mega donor Doomer types, who also happens to be a co-lead of the Anthropic Series A.
So, this is a tight-knit community that jumped on this tweet. So this was not some spontaneous act by an employee who said, oh, I'm just going to post my resignation letter on Twitter. This was something that was orchestrated. And then just the final piece of evidence on this point is that someone looked at the Wall Street Journal story that covered the resignation letter, and somehow it was posted minutes before the tweet storm itself.