A Finals Pick, Greatest Knicks Ever, ‘Made’ N.Y.C. Stars, and Big NFL Trades With Max Kellerman

**Bill Simmons** (0:06)
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Max Kellerman is here. We are recording on a Tuesday morning, Pacific time, a day before the New York Knicks are in the NBA Finals.
A day you never probably thought you'd see again in your lifetime. Had you given it up?

**Max Kellerman** (3:32)
Getting to the Finals? Possible.

**Bill Simmons** (3:35)
Yeah.

**Max Kellerman** (3:35)
Winning the Finals, something else.

**Bill Simmons** (3:37)
Impossible. We're gonna talk about that. I have a whole bunch of Knicks stuff for you, but I wanna talk about football first, just because I didn't get a chance. Like, the NBA, every time they think they have the stage, they have Wemby coming in, vanquishing OKC. We have a Knicks Spurs Wet Dream Finals.

**Max Kellerman** (3:52)
The face of the league, everyone loves him. Oh my god, worldwide sensation.

**Bill Simmons** (3:57)
And the NFL is like, hold my beer.

**Max Kellerman** (3:59)
Versus the biggest market and center of the known universe that is basketball starved. And that is, by the way, a basketball town above all things.
Perfect for the NBA, and they can get bumped off the back page.

**Bill Simmons** (4:12)
Hardest ticket in probably the history of New York sports. And the NFL is like, two monster trades for you today. How about this, we're going to take it for one day from you.

**Max Kellerman** (4:21)
A buck 35 per seat, the first seats that sold. $270,000 for two court side seats.

**Bill Simmons** (4:29)
I was thinking about that. My dad was always in this, like my dad in the 8 finals, he said season tickets at 74 for the Seltz. But it was bad for, I don't know, 15 years.