995. - Chris & Jason

Chris Black (0:18)

How Long Gone, let's fucking rock. Beautiful Monday in New York City. We're coming to you from the Nine Orchard Hotel. I'm in Jason's lair. The sun is shining, the wind, the breeze coming through the open window.

Jason Stewart (0:30)

We're gonna have some of that NYC background sound on today's episode.

Chris Black (0:35)

Some people pay for that ambient noise, but we get it for free.

Jason Stewart (0:38)

Move over, Red Scare. Yeah, this one's free, bitch.

Chris Black (0:40)

This one's free.

Yeah, man, look, we're gassed, if we're being honest, and we recorded a podcast yesterday with Pusha T that we thought was coming out today, and then we were told maybe it'd be better if it came out Wednesday, and I agree with that, but we didn't know that going into it. Anyway, so we're going to podcast now one-on-one together live, raw, uncut.

Jason Stewart (1:00)

We're going to do a raw recording right now of ourselves in a hotel room because of throwing fits. They fucked us.

Chris Black (1:09)

us again. No, but it's a great day. It's a great day to be in New York. The Gonnies are tomorrow. We just did a little quick chat with Lauren Sherman for fashion people, and then we're talking about a hot story that Stephen Colb, the CEO of the CFDA, got into a little...

Jason Stewart (1:26)

CEO of the ROC.

Chris Black (1:29)

A little physical violence with some PETA protesters at the cost show. And people are, of course, like, this is obviously funny, but then they're also saying, like, he assaulted, you know?

It's not that serious. He wasn't throwing haymakers on these fucking protesters. He was putting his hands on them, which is not the right thing to do.

Jason Stewart (1:51)

Well, what are you supposed to do? Pepper spray him? You can't pepper spray because then all the back spray, you're going to get lupita.

Chris Black (1:58)

I honestly wonder what... I don't know enough legally about what you're...

Jason Stewart (2:02)

I want to spray PETA, not lupita.

Chris Black (2:05)

I don't know what you're allowed to do with that. I really don't.

Jason Stewart (2:07)

Scissor kick? I mean, I think... I mean, obviously, Stephen Kolb looks like a maniac. He looks like the Commissioner David Stern of the NBA if somebody wandered onto the court and was trying to assault LeBron James or something like that.

Chris Black (2:21)

He was protecting his people.

Jason Stewart (2:22)

He was protecting his people and his investments, and he did have a break where he started... You can't do that in public.

Chris Black (2:32)

The look in his eye.

Jason Stewart (2:34)

He lost his professional cool.

Chris Black (2:36)

I will say the look in his eye doesn't match his level of aggression. The look in his eye is, you're dead. The aggression was like, stop!

I mean, the hand over mouth, that feels like something maybe that was like, scarred him from childhood or something.

Jason Stewart (2:51)

Well, what that reminded me of is, I was talking about it on the pod a long time ago, but when I was asking, I wasn't saying, but I was asking maybe another parent of a child, when you're on the airplane and your child is just nonstop, scream, crying the entire flight, why is it the worst thing in the world for a parent to not suffocate the child, but place a hand over the child's mouth to dampen the sound a little bit?

Chris Black (3:24)

Also, it's a physical way to...

Shut up with physical. You know what I mean? It's a...

Jason Stewart (3:30)

When telling somebody to stop doesn't work, you sometimes have to tell them with your hands.

Chris Black (3:36)

I'm not saying, duff out your child. I'm just saying, give them the physical way to understand that it's time to shut up, and that's what Cole was doing. I don't know... You're right, though. A security guard probably would have done something similar, but I just don't...

Jason Stewart (3:48)

Yeah, I mean, if you go... If somebody illegally trespasses on private property, a security guard is allowed to ask them to leave, and if they don't, you can use some force to remove them.

Cole isn't doing a throat punch, or...

Chris Black (4:05)

He had his piece on him, I saw it, but he didn't pull out his firearm. He didn't discharge his weapon, he didn't pull out his firearm.

Jason Stewart (4:12)

He carried, but he didn't conceal.

Chris Black (4:14)

He was wearing a vest, probably, but I didn't see any of it, but I could see the kind of...