973. - Shep Rose artwork

973. - Shep Rose

How Long Gone

July 22, 2026

Our friend Shep Rose from the Bravo universe and so much more returns to the pod to discuss his new book, Nothing in Moderation, detailing his psychedelic journey inward and beyond.
Speakers: Jason Stewart, Chris Black, Shep Rose
**Jason Stewart** (0:00)
This summer, Say I Do.

**Chris Black** (0:02)
I am marrying a stranger.

**Jason Stewart** (0:03)
Like never before.

**Chris Black** (0:04)
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**Jason Stewart** (0:11)
My name is Dr. Lisa. My name is Paul Brunson. More couples. This could be the start of a very successful marriage.

**Chris Black** (0:17)
And more surprises.

**Shep Rose** (0:18)
Or maybe not.

**Chris Black** (0:19)
Everything is just not enough.

**Shep Rose** (0:21)
You're a little bit crazy.

**Jason Stewart** (0:22)
I don't know what's gonna happen.

**Shep Rose** (0:24)
I want my fairy tale ending. Married at First Sight now streaming.

**Jason Stewart** (0:27)
New episodes Thursdays, only on Peacock.

**Chris Black** (0:48)
How Long Gone. Still West Coast and it's a beautiful day in God's country over here in Berkeley, California. I'm looking at the bridge from my window.
I'm staying at a very funny, interesting hotel that has a lot of quirks, Jason.

**Jason Stewart** (1:04)
Quirked up, shoddy, okay, what to do. Also, I was telling you that tweet about Berkeley that I saw a few days ago.

**Chris Black** (1:10)
Repeat it for the people at home.

**Jason Stewart** (1:12)
This is the Twitter account at hopes underscore revenge. Avatar seems to be a hamster taking a selfie, walking around downtown Berkeley and it's just flocks of beautiful Chinese girls whose dad owns the factory that makes 60 to 80% of the world's Christmas decorations and urine smell.
What say you, Chris? I know college, we're in between college right now, summer break, so I don't know if you're getting a full rundown of what's going on there.

**Chris Black** (1:40)
No, it's actually, it feels, I mean, I've been here during school and it feels obviously busier, but it doesn't feel not busy. And the piss smell is strangely apparent on certain corners.

**Jason Stewart** (1:49)
Really?

**Chris Black** (1:49)
Yeah, that's real. It's a pissy town. I've noticed that, but I'm staying at this hotel that Jonah Weiner suggested to me. It's called the Berkeley City Club. And it's like this architectural landmark. And it was designed by a famous architect named Julia Morgan. It has this crazy indoor pool.

**Jason Stewart** (2:06)
It sounds like a D-League British football team, I gotta say.

**Chris Black** (2:09)
It does.

**Jason Stewart** (2:10)
We got Berkeley City this weekend.

**Chris Black** (2:12)
It's like, you can stay, it's basically a members club for 85-year-olds who want to swim and play bocce ball, but then they also have like boarding rooms. It feels like I'm at like a, I'm hidden away at like an all girls school and I'm...

**Jason Stewart** (2:27)
Okay, what's the difference between a boarding room and a hotel room?

**Chris Black** (2:30)
A boarding room...

**Jason Stewart** (2:31)
Exactly.

**Chris Black** (2:32)
There's no TV, which I'm fine with. There's no desk, which is a little annoying. I would say it's a double bed.
The bathroom, it does have a lot of charm, I will say, but it feels like, you know, let me say this, and I need to be humbled at all times. So after, you know, three nights at the Chateau Marmont, I need it to be slapped in the face of a three star reality that I should be living in. And I find this quite charming.

**Jason Stewart** (2:58)
I'm looking at pics, it looks very charming. It looks like an amazing classic building, like all the tile work and the lobby and the swimming pool is a one of a kind, look like a goddamn Wes Anderson type shit. But I'm looking at the hotel room, I'm looking at the double bed. It is obviously given Nana Black's house in many ways, but also so are the rooms at the Chateau Marmont. They're both giving Nana, granny's rickety old nightstand.

**Chris Black** (3:26)
Yeah, but let me tell you, as a guy who's got boots on the ground, player, we ain't the same.
I can, but it is, but it has a funny, it has funny stuff, like there's a sign, like I woke up and was like, hey, where can I get coffee? And the woman just points, and there's a sign that says Coffee Corner, and you turn to the corner, and there's just coffee there.

**Jason Stewart** (3:48)
And it's just, it's just like, it's like, Coffee's in the Coffee Corner, you fucking idiot.

**Chris Black** (3:52)
The Coffee's in the Coffee Corner, you fucking idiot. And then there's also, I was like, I need to put this, I need to put my Sermalin in the fridge, and there's no fridge in the room. And they're like, oh, don't worry, there's a community fridge. And I was like, I'm sorry, what?

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