#959 - Mick West

Joe Rogan (0:10)

And we're live, ladies and gentlemen, we're live sporting the latest ound earth shill. We're just coming out with it. Round earth shill t-shirts. Both Jamie and I get $3 per month from the federal government to tell you that the world is round.

And Mick West is a big part of it all. He is one of the main shills that tells everybody, he has a whole website dedicated to arguing against people that think the world is flat.

Mick West (0:35)

Yeah, the difference is I don't get paid for anything.

Joe Rogan (0:36)

Come on, stop lying. I know you're getting $350 per month.

Mick West (0:40)

I wish I did. I had to pay for my web hosting, and it's coming out of my pocket, and nobody pays me anything.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

See, Mick West is serious. He's not joking around with us.

This has got to be one of the most bizarre trends. And Jamie, I think you said it first, that you thought it was originally a troll. You thought that they were fucking around like...

Mick West (1:02)

I still think some people are.

Joe Rogan (1:04)

Yeah, for sure.

But I feel like it started out with 4chan or something like that, or maybe you read it. These crazy kids, these wacky kids, they decide to start trolling, saying that the earth is round or the earth is flat.

Mick West (1:17)

I think that's some of it, but a lot of it is just people who actually believe it. Yes, there's a lot that actually believe it. And then there's people who see that there's people out there who believe it, and then they start egging these people on.

Joe Rogan (1:33)

Yes.

Mick West (1:34)

And then it becomes really, really hard to tell where the dividing line is. Who's actually trolling, and who's actually a genuine true believer.

Joe Rogan (1:41)

There are absolutely a lot of true believers, but there's also a lot of people with little green frogs in their avatar that think it's fucking hilarious.

Mick West (1:49)

Yeah, I think that type of person has kind of adopted it.

Joe Rogan (1:53)

Yes.

Mick West (1:54)

You were talking about shitposting the other day, and that's just something that you could do, is if you want to just annoy people by shitposting, you'll just post a bunch of Flat Earth memes because they're so infuriating to the average person that they're just going to be, what the heck is this person is posting? And the shitposter enjoys that type of thing.

Joe Rogan (2:17)

I was watching a video with this guy, was ranting on and on that it's not theory, that we need to stop accepting that the Flat Earth is a theory, but that it's a fact. We need to start accepting the fact that it's a fact. He was hilarious. What I mean to find is, because I saved it, I think his name was like Vegan Warrior or something like that, which is always, yes, Vegan Warrior.

He's a realist. It says it's no long, he's not only a Flat Earther, he's a realist.

Mick West (2:49)

Yeah, I think I've come across him. I think it's actually a relatively small number of people who are really active in promoting the Flat Earth stuff on YouTube.

Joe Rogan (2:58)

What's adorable is that they keep claiming that all the photos of Earth are fake, but they don't have a single photo of this fucking ice wall that's supposed to be around Antarctica.

And they keep saying erroneously that you're not allowed to fly over Antarctica.

Like yes, you are. They keep saying that there's no photographs of Earth from space, that they're all composites. No, that's not true. Why do they keep saying that? They keep saying that. There's a fucking satellite, there's a bunch of satellites, but there's one from Japan that takes high resolution photos of the Earth every 10 minutes. The full Earth from 22,000 miles away.

Mick West (3:36)

Yeah, that's the Japanese Himawari 8 satellite. But there's also like a US satellite that was just launched last year, the GOES-16 satellite, which is basically the same resolution.

Joe Rogan (3:47)

Pull this sucker right up to your face.

Mick West (3:49)

And the Russians, the Russians have a satellite. Everyone's got their own satellite, because this is basically a weather satellite. So they put them over the equator so they can see their own country. So Russia has one. You can mostly see India.

China has one. It's not as good as the other ones. But the Russian ones are like the same resolution, 121 megapixels. That's the size of the image they do. It's like 11,000 pixels by 11,000 pixels view of the Earth. And you can zoom in and you can see cities. You can see contrails.