#949 - Josh Zepps

Joe Rogan (0:02)

Five, four, three, two, one. Fuck it, we'll do it live!

Fuck it! We'll do it live! We'll do it live! Josh Zepps, today's a sad day. We lost Bill O'Reilly.

Josh Zepps (0:14)

I'm mourning. Are you mourning, Joe?

Joe Rogan (0:17)

I feel like I should be, but I'm not. He made a ton of loot.

Josh Zepps (0:21)

What's that?

Joe Rogan (0:21)

I said he made a ton of loot.

Josh Zepps (0:22)

Wow. I mean, since 96, when Fox News launched, and he was like the big... I'm just making it up that that's when Fox News launched. Let's check it, Jamie. Is that when Fox News launched? 96?

Joe Rogan (0:32)

Check it!

Josh Zepps (0:38)

He has pulled in so much money for that network and for himself.

Joe Rogan (0:42)

Oh, yeah.

Josh Zepps (0:43)

He wrote a bunch of books. He was the main guy, really.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

He really was the main guy.

Josh Zepps (0:46)

It's a big day in broadcasting.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

They're gonna find another old cunt to fill his spot. They're gonna have to. That's what people want.

Josh Zepps (0:53)

Look at that. October 7th, 1996, ladies and gentlemen. You're welcome, America.

You're welcome. Look at that.

Joe Rogan (0:58)

He was on, like, hard copy or something like that, right?

Josh Zepps (1:01)

I don't even know. I was too young. I wasn't even here in the States.

I was a school child in Australia.

Joe Rogan (1:07)

A little child. I don't remember him from anything else. I just remember him being on O'Reilly and watching it and going, what is this?

It's like that longing for nostalgia thing, you know, you see an older gentleman in a tie who just said, well, that's the way it is. The tide goes in, the tide goes out. Can you explain it? Like, what in the fuck is this guy doing?

Josh Zepps (1:25)

That was when he was talking. He was talking to an atheist, wasn't he? Who was he? Was it?

Joe Rogan (1:29)

Oh, I don't remember.

Josh Zepps (1:30)

It was like, maybe it was Ricky Gervais or someone. But he was saying...

Well, maybe it was Sam. Could it have been Sam Harris? No.

Joe Rogan (1:39)

I don't know who it was.

Josh Zepps (1:40)

Anyway, some atheist was saying like, he was saying, why do you... He was like, and Bill was like, I've got the absolute number one reason why you have to believe in God, because tide goes in, tide goes out. Always been that way, always will be that way. When the moon goes round, the earth spins round, how do you explain that if not God?

Joe Rogan (1:59)

It was just super obvious that he was pandering, because the guy went to fucking Harvard, okay? Bill O'Reilly is not a dope. He might be a douchebag, but he's not a dope.

He's not...

Josh Zepps (2:08)

I think religion makes people dopey in ways that they don't even know about.

Joe Rogan (2:12)

I don't even think he's religious.

I think he's barely religious. I think he's religious enough to get by with the job. That's interesting.

Josh Zepps (2:19)

So do you think he's insincere? He has been insincere.

Joe Rogan (2:21)

100%.

Josh Zepps (2:22)

Because I think he's one of the... Look, I don't watch the show a lot, so I'm not sure. But he's always struck me as one of the more straight shooters. I think he is...

He's smart but not wise.

Joe Rogan (2:33)

Yes.

Josh Zepps (2:34)

You know, what he feels in his gut is more important than what the data tells him. And I think he falls for a bunch of fallacies that a lot of people fall for, especially if they're religious. Like the idea that there is a certain order to the cosmos, and how could we all have come about? How could this whole thing around us exist? All these people, all these butterflies and the moon, and the tide comes in and the tide goes out, and there's me and Joe, these spiritual creatures, these beings sitting opposite each other at a table in Los Angeles right now.

Some people just find that too inexplicable to explain without a deity. So they're like, all right, there must have been a big guy who did it.

Joe Rogan (3:09)

It's even dumber, in my opinion, to think that one dude engineered this whole fucking thing.

I mean, wouldn't you just think that, oh, wow, there's some crazy, super complex system that sort of works in some odd way, where it balances itself out with predator and prey and food and water and fire and dirt and all this stuff together, and then you realize that it all has to form out of the actual elements that come from an exploding star. It's magnificent, just the actual, the full realm of things that they've absolutely proven to be true, in terms of scientific discoveries about the universe and just the very elements that constitute human beings and everything you see, this table and laptops, it's amazing. The idea that one dude is sitting there up in his cloud with a robe on.