#945 - Dr. Roddy McGee

Joe Rogan (0:02)

Five, four, three, two, one. Hmm, start. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Hello, Dr. McGee. That sound is not me peeing. If you're hearing that, you're like, what?

Is this a podcast in a bathroom? No, that's coffee.

How are you, buddy?

Roddy McGee (0:24)

Good. Thank you for having me.

Joe Rogan (0:26)

Thanks for being here. And for folks who have heard me rant and rave about the fantastic results that I have had getting treatment on my shoulder where I was that close to getting surgery, it's this gentleman, Dr. McGee, who's fixed me up out of Las Vegas, Nevada.

And now we're here to talk about it.

Roddy McGee (0:45)

Yeah, I appreciate the chance to be here.

Joe Rogan (0:48)

You're very short words today. He was very talkative before the podcast, folks. That's how it goes.

Roddy McGee (0:52)

But now I'm hearing myself in the headphones.

Joe Rogan (0:55)

Yeah, a little bit. We can take them off. We can take them off. It's too weird. You've never done a podcast like this before. You did John Dudley's.

Which was excellent. We can take it off.

Roddy McGee (1:03)

I might have to.

Joe Rogan (1:04)

Okay, let's take it off. I don't want to freak you out. Is that better?

Roddy McGee (1:07)

This is a little more like a normal conversation.

Joe Rogan (1:08)

Okay, I don't want to freak you out. To me, it's better because I can hear if things are wrong. What's the notes, Daddy-O? What do you got there?

Roddy McGee (1:16)

Just a couple of things. I jotted down. Just make sure to give you all the information you want to hear.

Joe Rogan (1:21)

Well, I just want to tell you that I feel super fortunate to have met you and to have been treated by you and to be able to have these conversations with you in your office, which is why I wanted to have you here to talk to you because, I mean, I was having some really significant shoulder issues before you treated it, and it's amazing the results and what I've avoided, avoided in shoulder surgery.

Roddy McGee (1:47)

I mean, you've had a tremendous result, so obviously, we're very thankful that you're able to get that benefit. And I think we're, in my community of orthopedic surgery and sports medicine, you know, we're very excited about the possibility and eager to continue to learn about it and see what it can be and how it can help and what it does best for what.

Joe Rogan (2:07)

Now, where's all this stuff coming from? Where is this science coming from and how has it evolved over the last few years?

Roddy McGee (2:14)

Well, a lot of the stuff that we're using is not new in terms of the tissue or that type of thing, but it's actually the application for orthopedic sports medicine. So you could go back decades to when it's been used in plastic surgery. For corneal ulcers is one of the original applications of placental tissue.

So the idea of it isn't necessarily new. It's just that as we've gained more understanding in our community of orthopedic surgery, now we're starting to see what the applications can be.

Joe Rogan (2:51)

Now when you say plastic surgery, what have they done with it, with plastic surgery?

Roddy McGee (2:54)

Mostly helping with wounds, so that's been the big application, wound healing, and the potential for there to be wound healing without scarring. So that's one of the things that we'll get into.

Joe Rogan (3:05)

How do they do that?

Roddy McGee (3:07)

It's part of the mechanism of how the cell helps the process of the healing, but we'll talk about that for sure.

Joe Rogan (3:14)

Now when they extract the placental tissue, they're doing it on young women who have had cesarean sections, correct? So it bypasses a lot of the ethical concerns that a lot of people had during the Bush administration, which kept them-

Roddy McGee (3:27)

Okay, so you said a couple of different important things there, so let's start breaking that down a little bit. So, the first thing is, you know, where does it come from? It comes from a young, healthy mother. In this case, what we're talking about, this particular category of biologic treatment or cellular tissue.

This comes from a young, healthy mother that's having an elective C-section and prior to the delivery has agreed to make a charitable donation, and then they have been screened. And there's a process that must be followed by the American Association of Tissue Banks. And they have a series of blood tests that they have to go through. And so, you're checking to be sure that there's no communicable disease, you know, for example, hepatitis or HIV, things of that nature. And so, once that has been cleared and they're an acceptable donor, then they go through the delivery, the tissue is collected. And as you said, this is stuff that typically would go in the garbage.