#931 - Jim Norton

Joe Rogan (0:00)

Henry Rollins was on the podcast before? Three, two, one.

You have a very specific style of wearing the headphones, with like one off to the side. And Henry Rollins does the same thing. And I said, oh, you're wearing your headphones Jim Norton style. I didn't know that you guys had had some sort of an altercation.

Jim Norton (0:19)

Well, how long was this?

Joe Rogan (0:20)

Recently, like a couple of months ago, two months ago. He didn't say anything, someone else told me online.

Jim Norton (0:27)

Oh, I thought Henry was still mad about it. I'm like, no, that was Miner.

Joe Rogan (0:30)

Was it?

Jim Norton (0:31)

Miner.

Joe Rogan (0:31)

Call it fucking online people, they blow everything out of proportion.

Jim Norton (0:34)

We've talked since then, I like him a lot. We've interviewed him, I think he's great.

Joe Rogan (0:36)

He's an interesting guy.

Jim Norton (0:37)

Very interesting. We were talking comedy one time, and I forget what he was talking about with Richard Pryor on the phone, but he was a little like, oh, you don't know Richard. Like, there was some...

Joe Rogan (0:46)

Oh, that's right. I remember this.

Jim Norton (0:48)

I vaguely remember it.

Joe Rogan (0:49)

Yeah, he was trying to pretend that you didn't know Richard Pryor, and you're like maybe one of the biggest Richard Pryor fans of all time.

Jim Norton (0:55)

Yeah, I love him. And it was a silly thing to try to... Like for what? There's no valor in knowing Richard Pryor. Set ouself on fire on purpose.

Joe Rogan (1:02)

There's a weird thing that people do when they pretend that knowing things makes them better than you because you don't know things.

Jim Norton (1:08)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:09)

It's very strange. Like knowing something is just like, oh, you know about it.

It's all it is.

Jim Norton (1:14)

And we also get caught up in where... Colin has a brilliant joke about how people, if you learn something from a movie, people are embarrassed to go, I learned that from TV or I learned it from a movie, so they try to act like they read it. He's not even smarter because you read it. I hated him for thinking of that great point.

But you do people feel smarter if they read something.

Joe Rogan (1:29)

Yeah, that's true. That's true. My daughter was just telling me that today, that she learned something from an animated movie.

And she said, that's the weirdest way to learn things ever. And I'm like, well, it's really not. I go, it's just a thing, you know? It's like you can learn things from anything.

Jim Norton (1:47)

It won't be any different learning it from there like then if you hear somebody say it, but there's just ways that we think are smart. Like I feel so much smarter if I read something. Oh yeah.

And just hearing it on TV, I'm like, ugh, I'm a fucking dope repeating what I heard again.

Joe Rogan (1:59)

Well, I have a friend who will get upset if people say they read a book if they actually listen to the audiobook.

Jim Norton (2:05)

Really?

Joe Rogan (2:06)

Yeah. It's like, did you read it? Or did you listen to the audiobook? I'm like, fuck man. Like, leave the guy alone.

Jim Norton (2:13)

I think listening to it's better.

Joe Rogan (2:14)

Well, it's way more productive. Like you can get it done while you're doing stuff, like driving your car or at the gym or whatever.

Jim Norton (2:22)

Can you, my focus has gotten so fucked up. Like, can you sit down and actually just comfortable? I read a book, and then all of a sudden, I'm like, I gotta be doing something addictive. I can't fucking read a book anymore. I hate that I can't.

My focus is not there.

Joe Rogan (2:34)

I read at night before I go to bed. That's what I like to do. I like to read, and when I start having a hard time paying attention, that's when it's time to crash.

Jim Norton (2:41)

How long can you read for? Like, a half hour?

Joe Rogan (2:42)

Couple hours. Yeah, I'm good for a couple hours. I'm usually good for no more than, say, like, well, if I sat down during the day, I could read for about three hours.

But at night, at night, I'm good for about two.

Jim Norton (2:54)

You have that kind of focus?

Joe Rogan (2:55)

Depends on what I'm reading, if it's really interesting.

Jim Norton (2:57)

Right.

Joe Rogan (2:58)

You know?

Jim Norton (2:58)