#875: The Random Show — Tim and Kevin Talk Retreats, Mortality, AI Predictions, Supplements, Rock Climbing at (Almost) 50, and Not Waiting for “Someday”

**Tim Ferriss** (0:12)
I'm a cybernetic organism living this year over a metal endoskeleton. Kevkev.

**Kevin Rose** (0:25)
Tim Tim.

**Tim Ferriss** (0:26)
Good to see you, man.

**Kevin Rose** (0:26)
Good to see you. And let's figure out which one there we got. Cheers.

**Tim Ferriss** (0:29)
Cheers, all right.
You know, I know the cool kids are down on alcohol, but everyone's in a while. I think there's a place for it.

**Kevin Rose** (0:36)
There's a time and place.

**Tim Ferriss** (0:38)
And this is the time. I think this is the time and the place. And I think paying a tax for it the next day is a feature, not a bug.

**Kevin Rose** (0:45)
Are you getting taxed harder on alcohol?

**Tim Ferriss** (0:47)
Of course, yeah.

**Kevin Rose** (0:48)
Is it getting worse?

**Tim Ferriss** (0:49)
Every old bastard that's gender neutral gets taxed as you can process ethanol less and less well over time. But I'm cool with it. I don't have that much, but today has been hectic.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:02)
Yeah.

**Tim Ferriss** (1:04)
Take a little edge off. And people may not like to sign to that. It's a little antiquated maybe for all the cool ketamine kids. No offense.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:13)
Don't put that shit on me. I try it one time and I get freaking.

**Tim Ferriss** (1:20)
You fucker got once and then they call me the godfucker. You can't get around it.

**Kevin Rose** (1:26)
I still stand by that experience. When you're doing it in a supervised setting by a medical professional.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:31)
Here we go. I'm telling you, you've done it.

**Kevin Rose** (1:35)
Of course I have. Okay.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:36)
So there we go.

**Tim Ferriss** (1:37)
Well, yeah, because I wanted to be able to speak.

**Kevin Rose** (1:39)
I saw you at a party one time and you're just like, that's not true.

**Tim Ferriss** (1:42)
That's not true. Still have all my nostrils intact. No ketamine cramps. You know, I don't know what that is.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:49)
Is that a thing?

**Tim Ferriss** (1:50)
That's when you use too much.

**Kevin Rose** (1:51)
Yeah.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:52)
Way, way, way, way.

**Kevin Rose** (1:53)
Well, yeah, I heard something bad in the bladder.

**Tim Ferriss** (1:55)
Yeah, your bladder can get a little grumpy or a lot grumpy.

**Kevin Rose** (1:58)
Yeah.

**Tim Ferriss** (1:58)
As the case might be.

**Kevin Rose** (1:59)
Yeah, I'm good.

**Tim Ferriss** (2:00)
You know, I'm good. Kevin, Random Show number 3479

**Kevin Rose** (2:05)
Yeah. You know, what's crazy, dude, is I looked up a random show the other day and you had a bit of hair like way back in the day. Way back.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:16)
Yeah. We were babies.

**Tim Ferriss** (2:17)
I know.

**Kevin Rose** (2:18)
So much shit has happened.

**Tim Ferriss** (2:20)
I know.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:20)
The only constant I think is like maybe like Toaster, he's barely alive.

**Tim Ferriss** (2:25)
Yeah.
I know. Seriously. Toaster was a tiny, tiny little pup. Yeah. Who was chewing through the XLR cables.

**Kevin Rose** (2:33)
Oh, my God.

**Tim Ferriss** (2:34)
On your couch in San Francisco way, way, way back in the day.

**Kevin Rose** (2:38)
Toaster was 15
And I'll tell a quick little story. A week ago, I get this call. Daria calls me and she's like, you got to get over the house. Like Toaster is shaking violently and he's 15 He's like running into walls and shit like, you know, he's getting up there and his legs are collapsing so he can't stand up and he couldn't stand up and he's shaking violently and I'm like just flying over there. I throw him in my car. He's on my lab driving to get to this emergency vet as fast as possible.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:08)
And he just sprays shit all over me.

**Kevin Rose** (3:11)
Like literally I heard it like I felt his stomach be like, here we go. And then like 10 seconds later, I'm not even talking like, oh, like, oh, he had a little shit.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:20)
Like no, no, no, no, like shotgun against the car door, like the whole thing. And it's all down my pants.

**Tim Ferriss** (3:28)
Poor toasty.

**Kevin Rose** (3:29)
I know. But you know what's funny, dude? It's like I rushed him in and long story short, he's okay now.

**Tim Ferriss** (3:34)
What was it?

**Kevin Rose** (3:35)
He had gone into the vet the day prior and he was so nervous that he stood for, he had to be there for like a multi hour blood draw because he was having some other issues. And he stood for like six hours straight.

**Tim Ferriss** (3:47)