#852 - John Anthony West

Joe Rogan (0:00)

Two, one, and we're live. Mr. West.

John Anthony West (0:05)

Mr. Rogan.

Joe Rogan (0:07)

Pleasure to have you here in person. Doing it on Skype was fun, it was nice, and you are, to this day, the only podcast I've ever done on Skype.

John Anthony West (0:14)

Really?

Joe Rogan (0:15)

Yep.

John Anthony West (0:15)

Oh, well.

Joe Rogan (0:16)

But I just had to talk to you. Like if you couldn't get down here, there's got to be a way, so it was nice to be able to do it that way, but much nicer to see you here in person.

John Anthony West (0:26)

Much better to be here in person, and actually what's responsible for me being here in person is that I wouldn't actually come all this huge distance, even to be on your show, unless you paid me lots of money, of course, which I'm not prepared to do. But because I have this conference coming up at the end of the week called CPAC, which I'm surprised you didn't know that, Conference on Precession and Ancient Knowledge, which is the end of this week for those living in Southern California might want to take a look at the website.

Joe Rogan (0:59)

Tell everybody where is that and what is it about?

John Anthony West (1:01)

It's Rancho Mirage, which is a great name and means there is no ranch. But Rancho Mirage, which is somewhere near Palm Springs.

And it is about exactly what it says, Conference on Precession and Ancient Knowledge. And it questions, to begin with, the whole scenario, the standard scenario about what causes precession, which is supposedly a kind of a wobble of the earth caused by nobody knows exactly what.

And the counter theory is that it isn't that. It's that there is a dwarf star of some sort orbiting the sun, upsetting the balance of the celestial mechanical balance of it. And that makes a difference. You say, well, what's the difference? One way or another, there's precession. It does make a difference actually in the big picture, because it means that our solar system basically conforms with all of the other solar systems, which mostly are dual in nature. Sirius, for example, has the dwarf star that's circled around it. Sirius B. That's responsible for all sorts of measurable phenomena. So it starts off from there, but then the ancient knowledge comes in, because precession, and this is a big mystery. Precession seems to be a factor of virtually every ancient society, be it sophisticated, a la China and India, South America, Mesoamerica, or so-called primitive, a word I hate to use. It simply means unintellectualized, or not expressed in coherent Western philosophy, for whatever that's worth.

But precession is a known fact, discovered actually a long time ago. You'd think by now it'd be common knowledge and everybody would teach it in school, which is a sort of a joke.

Joe Rogan (2:57)

Kind of interesting that people don't teach it, right? It is a very bizarre thing that it's so prominent in ancient cultures and ancient society, that they literally map this out, this 26,000 year cycle, this wobble of the earth, and that we rarely talk about it ever.

John Anthony West (3:13)

No, because it upsets the notion that there's a knowledge of this going back to ancient times, presupposes that there's a very advanced observational astronomy dating at a time when supposedly people were still living in trees. So this is actually a big deal, hence the conference on precession.

And the ancient knowledge comes into it because understanding that there is a highly sophisticated scientific understanding that goes back not just to ancient Egypt itself, but far thousands and thousands, millennia beyond, upsets what is effectively the reigning religion of today, except it doesn't call itself a religion.

It calls itself science, which is based supposedly on reason. It's not. None of those things are true. It's not based on science, and science is not based upon reason. Maybe we'll get time for that.

Joe Rogan (4:07)

Well, some sciences, but archaeology in particular is very rigid in its ideas, and a lot of it is based on the professors that have written books and that teach these ideas, and they don't want to let them go. And when new knowledge is discovered that challenges those ideas, they fight it rigorously, even if it's knowledge like the stuff that you exposed with Dr. Ron Schock, Robert Schock rather, which was the water erosion on the Sphinx, which we were talking about before the podcast, which is one of the best pieces of evidence, because the last time there was rainfall, heavy rainfall in the Nile Valley was, what was it, 9,000 BC? Is that what it was?