#845 - TJ Dillashaw, Duane Ludwig & Bas Rutten

Joe Rogan (0:00)

One, yes!

Slow down, Duane, slow down. You have an orange watch, you are a fucking... What is the orange thing?

Duane Ludwig (0:07)

I have always been attracted to orange. I grew up in Colorado, so the Broncos, orange has always been around me.

So, my favorite ninja hurdle at the time was Michelangelo with the orange, and then really no other fighters or gyms were using orange, so I wanted to make sure I did my own thing. That is your own thing? Yes, sir.

Joe Rogan (0:23)

Orange is your, I mean, it's like...

Duane Ludwig (0:24)

I absolutely love orange. I see some orange at a store, a crowd of people, I see an orange shirt, and my eye just goes, whoop, right to it.

Joe Rogan (0:30)

So if there's a fruit bowl, and there's an orange right next to a banana.

Duane Ludwig (0:32)

Grab an orange. Grab an orange.

Joe Rogan (0:35)

TJ, what is it like being around this guy?

TJ Dillashaw (0:37)

Oh, it's intense, man, I love it. Life's full of energy, you can't be calm around him because he's got enough energy for both of us.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

Yeah, no, he's a mad man. We worked out today, and he's in the middle of training. He just gets excited and starts hitting his past together.

TJ Dillashaw (0:52)

I don't ever have to do road work because of this guy. I mean, we hit mitts for so long and so hard that I'm in too good a shape already. You know?

Joe Rogan (0:58)

That's interesting. Like, all the footwork drills and everything, I never really thought of that. Like, you probably don't have to do road work.

TJ Dillashaw (1:03)

It'd be too much. I do too much training as it is. If I'd started doing road work, I think I'd over train myself.

Joe Rogan (1:08)

That's fascinating. You have to kind of regulate that, huh? Like, there's a standard model that, like, a lot of fighters follow, and road work is a big part of that.

But do you think, with all the stuff that you do, if you did that as well, it might be too much?

TJ Dillashaw (1:21)

It'd be too many hours put into the day. I'm just too tired by the time I get home, or I'd have to, I mean, I could do it on the, out of camp, you know, just to keep my mind right, and kind of get some zen going. But during camp, it's too much. I train too much to be able to have to run as well.

Joe Rogan (1:35)

It's funny because everybody's got a different sort of way of doing it. Like Jeremy Stevens was on the podcast recently, and one of the things that he was saying is that he really ramped up his running to the point where that, what he was saying is that having like this, like long endurance base really helps him in fights, because he knows that he is always gonna recover, he can always push further and harder.

TJ Dillashaw (1:57)

To me, he seems like the kind of fighter that does need to build on the cardio anyways, you know? I feel like each person's body is gonna react differently to training, and I'm someone that has endless cardio, it feels like when I'm fighting in training, so I need to stay more, a little more fast twitch, and I'm always putting size on instead of losing it, and I feel like Stevens has been trying to drop weight and get smaller, and it helps with his weight cut, I'm sure.

Joe Rogan (2:18)

Yeah, I think it helps with his weight cut, but I think with him, it's also like a mental thing too. He wants to break guys, like he's such an aggressive guy, like that's a big part of like his training, is just being able to like have those extra gallons in the gas tank.

TJ Dillashaw (2:32)

Absolutely. I mean, I think that's what's kind of hard. It's hard for me to run because of my mind so crazy though too. Like I'll go, I'm all over the place. I want to rather hit mitts and be aggressive. I'm too aggressive of a person, I guess.

Joe Rogan (2:43)

Well, we were talking before the podcast about our friend Cam Haynes who just ran 200 miles, and we're like, that shit is not good for you.

TJ Dillashaw (2:50)

No way, no way. It's not good, your body's not supposed to do that.

Joe Rogan (2:53)

It might be good for his brain, though, because he's so fucking crazy. Like, he needs to know that he can do something like that. He ran for 78 hours.