#839 - Tom Papa

SPEAKER_1 (0:04)

And to this house we're born.

Joe Rogan (0:06)

Tom Papa, ladies and gentlemen, the Sultan of Sourdough. That's your nickname.

Tom Papa (0:11)

I love that. I saw that this morning.

SPEAKER_4 (0:13)

Yeah, the Sultan of Sourdough.

Tom Papa (0:14)

That's really badass.

Joe Rogan (0:16)

New York Times, they mentioned you in the New York Times.

Tom Papa (0:19)

Oh, yes, the New York Times.

Joe Rogan (0:21)

I talk about the New York Times, I keep my mouth closed when I say it.

Tom Papa (0:24)

The New York Times. I'm now friends with the New York Times because of doing your podcast and hooking me up. Amazing.

Joe Rogan (0:31)

What is he like, or is it a she?

Tom Papa (0:34)

He's a great guy.

Joe Rogan (0:35)

He's the gray old lady. He's an old gray lady.

Tom Papa (0:37)

Yeah.

So when I was in New York, I went with my daughter. They gave us a tour of the New York Times. They invited us in anytime you want to come.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

Because of the sourdough?

Tom Papa (0:46)

Because of the sourdough story. And because they saw it on this show.

Joe Rogan (0:50)

That's incredible.

Tom Papa (0:51)

Yeah. The show brings me riches.

Joe Rogan (0:54)

Dude, this show got an article written in the New York Times about sourdough bread and starters. That was absolutely fascinating though.

Tom Papa (1:03)

It was.

Joe Rogan (1:03)

I had no idea.

Tom Papa (1:04)

Yeah, that's the new world.

Joe Rogan (1:06)

I read an article today in the New York Times. It was so disappointing though. It was, some woman wrote an article blaming the patriarchy on women drinking too much.

Sexism on women drinking too much. I'm like, is this the fucking New York Times? Like, how desperado are they for ratings or for reading or sourdough starter, America's rising pet. There it is.

Tom Papa (1:28)

Yeah, but there's a better picture than that though. I don't remember what it was. There it is. There it is.

SPEAKER_4 (1:34)

Tom Papa.

Tom Papa (1:36)

My little starter sitting on my counter.

Joe Rogan (1:39)

That's awesome.

Tom Papa (1:41)

I was just stirring it up today.

Joe Rogan (1:43)

There's a fucking really disturbing article that I read in the Washington Post this morning. The news is getting fucking super wacky. Glenn Greenwald tweeted it. The Washington Post wrote an article about this settlement in Israel, the settlement in Israel that they want to bulldoze, and they called it a miserable town.

A miserable town that Israel wants to bulldoze, this miserable town. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who fucking wrote this article?

How did you think the language? I'm going to write miserable article. You're dealing with dirt poor people that are living in these horrible conditions.

Tom Papa (2:26)

Right.

Joe Rogan (2:27)

And they just decided to go with that as their title. Look at this title. Tell me, look at this. Israel wants to bulldog. Oh, they changed it to Ram Shackle Village.

Oh, they changed it, those fucks.

But Europe is providing life support. Wow. They call it was miserable village this morning.

Tom Papa (2:45)

Ram Shackle sounds kind of cute.

Joe Rogan (2:46)

Ram Shackle is still.

Tom Papa (2:49)

It's like they're trying.

Joe Rogan (2:50)

Yeah, Ram Shackle is like, okay, if it's white people. If you're talking about white people that live in trailer parks, he's got a Ram Shackle trailer park.

Tom Papa (2:57)

Yeah, a corn cob pipe, and he hangs out and drinks from his jug at night.

Joe Rogan (3:01)

He's got a bunch of cars on blocks in the yard.

Tom Papa (3:04)

It's old. It's not fancy, but it sure is Ram Shackle.

Joe Rogan (3:08)

Yeah, that makes sense. But this morning, the title was miserable.

Tom Papa (3:13)

Don't you feel that writing in all of journalism, like it's all leveled out. Like sometimes you read an article in the Huffington Post and they suck you into like some article.

And it's written by like a high school journalism student. It's just sensational. It just goes like into three paragraphs in before it even comes out, like the heading. And then you read some stuff in The New York Times or other places, and some of it's definitely much smarter, but some of it is a little opinionated, has these little things in it, and it's lazy. It seems like it's because there's such a rush, you can't spend as much time on stories.

People get lazy and careless.

Joe Rogan (3:57)

Well, I also think that when people are at their best, they write about what they love.