#818: John Arnold with Dr. Peter Attia — The Greatest Energy Trader of All Time on Lessons Learned, Walking Away from Wall Street, and Reinventing Philanthropy

**Tim Ferriss** (0:00)
Hello, hello, hello, Nelly. This is Tim Ferris. I figured I'd mix up the intro. Welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferris Show where it is my job. Each episode, typically to sit down with world-class performers of all different types, from all different industries, from all different fields to tease out the habits, routines, favorite books, influences, and so on, that you can in some fashion emulate or test and apply in your own life. This time around in this episode, we have a slightly different format, which I'm super excited about. I will not be the one doing the deconstructing. Instead, we have my good friend, Peter Attia, taking my place. In this episode, we have Peter interviewing the legendary John Arnold. As many listeners know and many probably don't know, Dr. Peter Attia, on Twitter and Instagram, at Peter Attia, A-T-T-I-A-M-D, is a former ultra endurance athlete. So he's done swimming races of 25 miles, et cetera, a compulsive self-experimenter, so he get along well, and one of the most fascinating human beings I know. He is also one of my go-to doctors for anything related to performance and longevity, because blending the two is quite a sophisticated and subtle business. Peter also hosts The Drive, a weekly ultra deep dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking, and a few other things. He really gets into the weeds with specialists on his show. Topics include fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer's disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. You can subscribe to The Drive on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can find links to all of this in the show notes for this episode at tim.blog.com.
I will let Peter take from here to give John's full bio and introduce the episode. This is one not to miss. I really enjoyed it and hope you do as well. Thanks for listening. But first, just a few quick words from our sponsors who make this show possible. I don't know about you guys, but I have seen a lot of crazy stuff in the last few weeks. I saw an AI generated video. It looks like a video of an otter on a flight, tapping away on a keyboard, having a stewardess ask him if he would like a drink, and it goes on from there. This was generated with AI and it looks photorealistic, basically. I mean, it would have cost hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars to do in the past, taken forever, and now it's, boom, snap of the fingers. It's crazy. So AI is changing everything. We know that it is also changing the way startups and small businesses operate. Things are going to get crazier. The rate of change is only going to get faster. And while a lot of good is going to come with that, it also means security and compliance headaches, for one thing. And that is where today's sponsor, Vanta, comes in. I'd already heard a lot about them before they ever became a sponsor, just like 10,000 plus other companies that rely on Vanta. My friends at Duolingo, shout out Duolingo and Ramp, shout out Ramp, one of this podcast's sponsors and an ultra-fast growing company, use Vanta to handle security compliance. Why would they do that? Well, Vanta automates compliance for frameworks like SOC 2, ISO 27001 and HIPAA, making it simple and fast to get enterprise-grade compliant. But what does that mean? It adds up to impressive results. Companies can save up to 85% of costs, get compliant in weeks instead of months, and complete security questionnaires up to 5 times faster. So check it out, vanta.com/tim. That's V-A-N-T-A, like Santa with a V. vanta.com/tim to see how Vanta can help you level up your security program. My listeners, that's you, can get $1,000 off. So check it out, vanta.com/tim.
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