#815 - Cameron Hanes

Joe Rogan (0:02)

We're back, world. I used to say America, but foreign people get upset. Poor bastards living in other countries.

Sad enough, they can't be graced on our patch of dirt.

I just had to explain to Cameron Hanes that when your iPhone, when you use a bunch of apps, you double click on that bottom button, and then it shows you all the apps that are running in the background. Most people don't know this, most people just use their phone. But that's a fucking resource robber right there, buddy. You got to be careful.

Cameron Hanes (0:31)

I learned something today.

Joe Rogan (0:32)

I have to show people things. When I'm showing you tech tips, you know you're tech-retarded.

Cameron Hanes (0:39)

I'm a little bit behind the curve.

Joe Rogan (0:42)

So what's happening, brother? How are you feeling, man? You just ran 100 miles like a week ago.

Cameron Hanes (0:46)

Yeah, I did.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

It was about a week ago, right?

Cameron Hanes (0:49)

Yeah, it was last Saturday and Sunday, so father's day.

Joe Rogan (0:54)

All in preparation for a 200-mile run in August.

Cameron Hanes (0:58)

That's right.

Joe Rogan (0:59)

God damn, dude. We were talking about it today, like the mental games that your brain starts playing on you.

Cameron Hanes (1:06)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:07)

And you were describing all the shit that your brain starts doing to you while you're running.

Cameron Hanes (1:12)

Yeah, there's so many peaks and valleys when you push yourself like that, and I was thinking about all the ways I could quit, how I could come up with an excuse to how I could get out of this race.

And really, I could say anything, because who's going to ever question it? Because it's like, okay, how many people have ever run for 24 straight hours, right? So you can't really question me, but it's just I push myself. So I mean, I couldn't live with myself if I quit the race, but I'm not saying I wasn't thinking about how nice it would have been to stop running.

Joe Rogan (1:48)

Well, anytime you're working out, I mean, if you just think about a yoga class, which is like 90 minutes, those last 20 minutes, you're totally thinking about, it would be so nice to just get the fuck out of this hot room, drink some cold water, but you just power through. Now multiply that times 24, and way harder, because you're running, you're exhausted, you're in pain. I can't even imagine. I'm saying all these things, and I'm just guessing what it's like.

Cameron Hanes (2:12)

Well, it's, you know, I teamed up with a pretty good runner, Joe Yuhon, to start the race. He was getting a workout in. He was pacing at the Western States 100, which was this last weekend.

And so he wanted to get a good workout. So I was like, oh, cool. I can knock off a bunch of miles with him. So we were running pretty fast, pretty fast for, you know, when you have to run for 24 straight hours. But we knocked off 10 miles quickly. And I remember I was running with him, and I was, you know, after you run 10 miles, you know you've done something. And I was thinking to myself, I got 90 more miles left.

I felt like I'd already got a pretty good workout, and I hadn't even got started, really.

Joe Rogan (2:52)

You felt like you were done, and you had 90 miles left.

Cameron Hanes (2:57)

Yeah, so it's, you know, when you talk about mental strength and just keeping, keep hammering, basically. You just gotta keep hammering.

Joe Rogan (3:08)

And what is it like when it's over? What is the feeling like when you cross, when it's 24 hours, the time's up, you look at your distance, 102 miles?

What does that feel like?

Cameron Hanes (3:19)

It feels good.

Most days, and this is just me, I can't expect anybody to be able to relate to my screwed up mind. But I mean, me personally, I can go run 15 miles, get a good workout, go home, and an hour later, I'm thinking, I could have done more. I'm not satisfied. So the big thing for me is when I've done something like that for one of the few times throughout the year, I feel satisfied that I gave what I had.

Joe Rogan (3:55)

So it's just so brutal that you never feel like you could have done more.

Cameron Hanes (3:59)

No, no, no, no. I always think I could have done more. No, I'm disappointed with myself.

Just because in that race, I can try to have it make sense. I can be logical about it, and I could say, well, I went out really fast because I wanted to be as miserable as possible for as long as possible to prepare myself for the Bigfoot 200 So I can say, well, I ran super hard for four hours hoping I was going to be miserable for 20, and I knew my pace would be slower and it would be more painful, but in the big picture, it will help me.