#813 - Shane Dorian

Joe Rogan (0:00)

This is the first time Jamie's ever had a start. He's getting tricky.

That's real? That's real, we're live. Shane Dorian, how are you, brother?

Shane Dorian (0:08)

What's going on? I'm doing great, thanks.

Joe Rogan (0:10)

Thanks for doing this, man. I really appreciate it.

Shane Dorian (0:11)

Yeah, no problem. I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

Joe Rogan (0:14)

My pleasure. You know, you come highly recommended by my friend Ben O'Brien, who's an awesome dude. And apparently you guys had a great time in New Zealand bow hunting.

Shane Dorian (0:23)

Yeah, I love Ben. He's very Texas. Yeah, we had a really good old time down there.

You know, I had never been to New Zealand for hunting before. I'd been there for surfing, so it was really cool to go and see different parts of the country and do some hunting out there and do some backcountry stuff.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

Surfing there, is it as dangerous as surfing in Australia as far as sharks?

Shane Dorian (0:44)

No, not as dangerous, I'd say. You know, there are sharks there. It's pretty close to Australia. It's only like a one-hour flight.

Joe Rogan (0:49)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Shane Dorian (0:50)

Same sharks are over there, but I don't know. I don't really think of sharks as much.

There's no... you have a total radical fear of sharks, huh?

Joe Rogan (1:00)

It's awful.

Shane Dorian (1:01)

They're scary, scary creatures, man.

Joe Rogan (1:03)

I'm fucking horrified. How close have you come to them?

Shane Dorian (1:06)

You should be. Very close.

Yeah, I got bumped off my board when I was a kid.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

Oh, no.

Shane Dorian (1:14)

Surfing at a place, you know, sort of near my house, but the water was... the sand was black.

So, yeah, like I really couldn't... The water was actually clear, but the sand was black. So it bumped me, and I never really got to see what it was, but I'm pretty sure it was a shark. And there's a lot of sharks in Hawaii. A lot of sharks. Wherever the waves are good, it seems like there's a lot of sharks, man.

Joe Rogan (1:34)

Yeah. That's not a coincidence, is it?

Shane Dorian (1:38)

I don't know, man. They're just everywhere. They're crazy. You know, it's funny about sharks is I was...

Growing up, I always thought, you know, the only real sharks I had to worry about were, you know, great whites. And, you know, I was born and raised in Hawaii. That's where I grew up surfing. And, you know, I always thought, like, great white sharks are always in, like, really cold places. I don't really have to worry it around home. And they've been finding a ton of great white sharks around, you know, where I live now. They're all over Hawaii now. And great white sharks are actually warm-blooded, so they can actually...

They can totally adjust their, I guess, their body temperature to be able to totally survive and thrive in warm water as well as cold. So, they just go wherever the hell they want.

Joe Rogan (2:23)

Every time I go to Hawaii, whenever I turn on the news, the local news, some dude got bit.

Shane Dorian (2:28)

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:29)

How often does it happen there?

Shane Dorian (2:31)

Pretty often. There's a lot of sharks. And you know what's funny is it never used to happen when I was a kid. It wasn't even really a thought for me. I mean, I was scared of sharks and all that stuff, but people didn't really start getting chomped until I was a little bit older. In the last 10 years, there's been tons and tons of shark attacks in Hawaii.

A friend of mine, Bethany Hamilton, she's a really, really talented surfer. She got bit. She got her arm chomped right off her body.

Joe Rogan (2:53)

Oh, that girl, that really young girl. Yeah.

Shane Dorian (2:56)

Yeah. In Kauai, surfing perfect waves out with her friend, and shark came up and just ripped her arm right off her body.

Joe Rogan (3:02)

How gangster is she that she just gets right back on the board?

Shane Dorian (3:04)

And she survived. She's badass. She's super badass. She actually surfed some of the biggest waves all year last year. She got towed into a place called Jaws on Maui and surfed in 50-foot waves with one arm. One arm, you know, getting pounded by giant waves, and she paddles into some huge waves with one arm.

And gets held underwater with one arm.

Imagine getting held under from a giant wave underwater, you know, like trying to, you know, just, I mean, I know people who are terrified of surfing big waves with two arms, and you know, they're underwater wanting a breath, and she's under there with one arm. Imagine having like your arm tied to your side and having to try and swim to the surface in big waves. Pretty scary.