#809 - Aubrey Marcus

Joe Rogan (0:04)

Doo doo, yee-haw! Hello, world. What's up?

Aubrey Marcus (0:06)

What's going on, brother?

Joe Rogan (0:07)

My man, back from fucking Canada.

Aubrey Marcus (0:09)

Back from Canada. That was awesome.

Joe Rogan (0:11)

What was that experience like for you?

Aubrey Marcus (0:14)

Well, that experience was...

Joe Rogan (0:15)

Besides doing mushrooms and running around the woods by yourself?

Aubrey Marcus (0:18)

That was the experience.

Joe Rogan (0:20)

How can you exclude that?

Aubrey Marcus (0:21)

How can you exclude that from me? That's like taking away a fighter's ability to talk about fighting.

Joe Rogan (0:27)

We were up in Canada bear hunting, and Aubrey decides to do mushrooms and go run off into the woods.

Aubrey Marcus (0:31)

Yeah, well, I had to check in, you know?

Joe Rogan (0:35)

I understand.

Aubrey Marcus (0:36)

See if I was on the right path. Yeah, that was fucking... It was powerful, man. Super powerful. Because bears, as I was telling you, bears have come to me in my visions doing ayahuasca and everything since the drop. Like, from the very first time I was doing ayahuasca, bears were coming to me and teaching me lessons, and I was talking to them.

Joe Rogan (0:52)

What kind of lessons?

Aubrey Marcus (0:53)

Man, the first time it came was the first time I did ayahuasca, and I saw this bear, and it was wrapped up in all these chains, and it was struggling against these gold chains. It was like a Mr. T bear. It had a fucking crown and these heavy gold chains, and he was stuck, and it couldn't move.

And the bear stops. He was kind of frantic trying to get out of these chains. He stops and looks at me, and he goes, I remember when I was just a bear, and I didn't have to worry about all this shit.

And it was a lesson about the wealth that we have can become a prison that holds us back and prevents us from being our true nature, the bear's true nature is just being a bear, chasing after shit, eating shit, climbing trees. But the wealth that it accumulated prevented it from doing that.

Joe Rogan (1:33)

What a bizarre, weird, right? What is that? Who's teaching you that? What is that, your imagination?

What's going on with that?

Aubrey Marcus (1:42)

I have no idea.

And it just appeared to me, that's the funny thing. It's so strange. It feels real, like this is a spirit guy teaching you, but it very well could be your imagination. But man, I'm not that creative to think about a bear in gold chains telling me a lesson about wealth.

Joe Rogan (1:58)

I have a thought on that.

We look at the imagination, and we say, oh, he's just imagining things. But everything in the world is from the imagination. Every building, every airplane, every car, every piece of clothing, every computer, everything came out of the imagination, everything. I think the imagination is something really fucking weird.

I think we've somehow or another, we've almost like, I don't want to say we underestimate it, but we underrate it. We put it into this weird little category like it's a silly thing. Oh, you're just imagining. And that allows it to operate. And by underrating it or by undervaluing it, it allows it to sort of roam free and do all of its work. But it's responsible for creating everything that we see the humans have ever done in the world.

Aubrey Marcus (2:47)

It gets interesting for me too. And you think about these mythical creatures like big foots and dragons and things like that. When we create them, we actually create the light, the neurons in our brain that form around that memory and that concept. Even if we draw a monster, we've actually created that monster on a micro scale inside our brain. And it's just we value this macro scale of the world where it actually breathes and lives. But we're actually assembling light in our brains to create that thing that we're imagining.

It's just on a very, very small level, and it doesn't have the freedom and flexibility. But we are really, truly creating entities all the time in our own brain.

Joe Rogan (3:25)

Yeah, I really wondered about that with aliens, with that archetypal alien, the iconic gray with the large black eyes. That thing's real now. It's a real thing. Whether or not you ever meet one or whether or not one exists in a physical state where you could drag it in front of the National Enquirer photographers and get some good shots of it. It's a real thing. And what I mean by it's a real thing is if you do mushrooms, you'll fucking see them.