#797 - Alex & Allyson Grey

Joe Rogan (0:02)

And we're live. You don't have headphones?

There you go. Alex and Allyson Grey. Hello, how are you guys? Great Joe. I think you got to turn that sucker around and see that one. There you go. Nope. Oh my goodness. This is Joey Diaz, part two. And when Joey Diaz couldn't figure out the headphones?

Welcome folks, what's going on?

Alex Grey (0:30)

We are in the middle of building Entheon.

Joe Rogan (0:33)

I've heard.

Alex Grey (0:34)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

That's the rumor.

Alex Grey (0:35)

The thing that you got us kicked off on really, the last time that we spoke to you, we were doing a Kickstarter campaign to build Entheon. It was like three years ago.

And we're in the middle of another one because we started building it and we need a little more money to finish the interior. Now we've got a three-story, 12,000 square foot building with a new roof and incredible spaces to exhibit visionary art. So it's there and I guess it's just a matter of time about finishing it. And the more money we get, the quicker we'll be able to finish it.

Joe Rogan (1:18)

Are there images of it right now, currently in construction, that people can view? Oh, look at that. Jammies of Montt.

That's amazing. Where did you get... That looks like really old brick. That's cool-looking brick.

Allyson Grey (1:30)

1882 It was built in 1882 We're saving the carriage house from 1882

Joe Rogan (1:36)

So explain the process. So it started out as a carriage house? Yep. And you saved part of it?

Yes.

Allyson Grey (1:44)

We surrounded it.

Joe Rogan (1:46)

Wow. Oh, so you surrounded it with art.

Allyson Grey (1:47)

It's inside the building.

Joe Rogan (1:50)

Whoa. Jamie, scroll back up. Hold on. Don't go anywhere.

Get back up to the top one.

Alex Grey (1:55)

Wow.

Joe Rogan (1:55)

That's intense.

Allyson Grey (1:56)

That's just one room on the third floor. That's where the Sacred Mirrors are going to be. There's three floors.

Alex Grey (2:02)

Yeah. We're going to put crisscross kind of ladders across the angels.

Let's see. On my Instagram, I suppose, there's a more recent feed of the interior. Now we've got a couple of the actual angels. There were 10 angels in the previous chapel installation there in New York City. And I always wanted to...

Joe Rogan (2:29)

He went to the wrong Alex Grey. He went to some potty.

Allyson Grey (2:35)

That's relevant, isn't it?

Alex Grey (2:37)

It is.

Well, let's see. So there's a space. There's one of the angels over there. That's a...

Wow. This is the planned corner, one of the angels of the four corners, that the direction of the building that we're kind of recycling the carriage house has the corners of the buildings pointing in the cardinal directions. So I thought that a feature of them, there will be angels of the north, south, east, west. And part of the whole thing is getting the four quadrants together. On top of the building, there's a steeplehead that is basically a four-faced being that is the people of the four directions coming together in visionary oneness. So as a building, it's a big basically godhead.

Joe Rogan (3:35)

Is that a real image of the actual outside of the building with that angel on it?

Alex Grey (3:39)

No, that's...

Joe Rogan (3:39)

Some lockup?

Alex Grey (3:40)

Yeah, that's the computer model that was made by one of the Disney animators, Ryan Toddle. He's the guy that is responsible for running one of the digital animation teams that did Zootopia and Frozen.

He's an amazing modeler.

Joe Rogan (4:03)

Go back there, Jimmy.

Look at this outside of this building. That might be the coolest looking building on the planet Earth.

Alex Grey (4:10)

Go up a little bit and you'll see, one of the coolest things about the video that is in there is that it shows a kind of spin around of the building itself. That was done by, he's amazing.

That's from the front. So you've got a kind of evolutionary thing going on on the sides.

Joe Rogan (4:32)

Oh yeah.

Alex Grey (4:33)

And then it gets to the front door, which is Adam and Eve creating a better world. So it kind of brings together those mythologies of those narratives of development.

Joe Rogan (4:49)

Can you zoom in on the Adam and Eve, Jamie? Is that a Caduceus in the middle of them?

Alex Grey (4:55)

Let's see, actually down below, way down below, there's a, there you get to see.

Joe Rogan (5:03)

Oh wow. So you really did the Caduceus and then sort of replicated the DNA, which a lot of people believe was what the Caduceus was based on in the first place, right?