#792 - Lewis, from Unbox Therapy

Joe Rogan (0:00)

we smoke weed?

We're live already? I asked, should we smoke weed? Right when Jamie gave me the gun sign. What's up, brother? Good to see you, man.

Lewis (0:11)

Yeah, you too, man. It's good to be back.

Joe Rogan (0:14)

It's good to have you back.

This is like warm time, though, in Toronto. You didn't really want to leave that bad right now.

Lewis (0:19)

You know what? But I kind of felt like today out here was almost the perfect weather anyways.

Oftentimes, I'll come out here, I'm not a guy who needs to be in the heat. I'm not one of these people, when it snows or whatever, I'm complaining. I can handle it. I feel like genetically, I'm built for that environment.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

You're a Canadian.

Lewis (0:39)

That's right. Canadians born and bred.

Joe Rogan (0:42)

They can deal with it.

Lewis (0:42)

So I don't mind a little bit of the cold, but today here in LA, this is God's weather.

This is like, I think if every day could be exactly like this out here, there'd be a compelling argument. But it's those hot days, getting into the car and burning. Am I fired up today? Am I fired up this morning? This is coffee number three. All right, blame the caffeine.

Joe Rogan (1:08)

There's two arguments, right? The argument is if it's really cold out, you can always dress for the cold, but you can't really dress for the warm.

Lewis (1:16)

Yeah, right, undress.

Joe Rogan (1:17)

Yeah, but you could freeze to death.

It's super hard to heat up to death. Like, you gotta really fuck up to heat up to death.

Lewis (1:26)

The desert, the desert. The desert will kill you pretty quickly.

Joe Rogan (1:29)

You gotta go to Death Valley. I actually know a dude who died like that.

Lewis (1:33)

Really?

Joe Rogan (1:33)

Yeah, he went on like a sort of a spiritual walkabout kind of a thing. This guy, Evan Tanner, he was a UFC fighter, former middleweight champion.

Lewis (1:41)

If you didn't think I may have heard that.

Joe Rogan (1:43)

Yeah, he was into these long periods of solitude and spiritual quests, and he decided to go out into the desert and just try to find himself or whatever. I don't know exactly what his purpose was. But when you get out there and it gets to be like 120, 130 degrees, you get disoriented, and he couldn't figure out where he put his water.

Yeah, he couldn't find where his stuff was.

Lewis (2:09)

You know what's funny? How about that stuff in movies and whatnot, cartoons, where every time somebody's in the desert, they're seeing a mirage.

What is that about?

Joe Rogan (2:19)

Well, you can definitely hallucinate before you die.

Lewis (2:22)

And do you think that that's what that's predicated on, is an actual history of people having seen these oasis situations?

Joe Rogan (2:29)

Well, you know what it is. You know how when you're driving on the road and the road is really hot, it looks like it's wet, it looks like there's water on the road?

Lewis (2:37)

Right, from the heat waves.

Joe Rogan (2:39)

Exactly.

That illusion on the road can recreate itself, I'm sure, in desert situations. It only makes sense.

Lewis (2:47)

And it's what you want to see.

Joe Rogan (2:48)

Yes.

Lewis (2:49)

So you're like, you know you're in rough shape. Yeah. You create what you need to see.

Joe Rogan (2:53)

Can you imagine if you did? Imagine if you're like almost dying and you find water.

You'd be like, yes. I mean, I think that's, those are the kind of moments that make people really truly appreciate life. And I think that's one of the reasons why people in LA are so fucking spoiled and ridiculous is because they don't experience real weather. It just gets a little warm, and then the worst thing they have to do is turn the AC on. But they don't have to shovel their way out of snow. They don't have to drive on slippery roads.

They don't have to, and there's a certain amount of community that comes with everybody sort of bonding together because it's a blizzard.

Lewis (3:27)

Right.

Joe Rogan (3:28)

Remember those?

Oh, you sure. You experience it all the time.

Lewis (3:30)

Happens all the time, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of a, it's the kind of situation, I think, where anytime as a human being, you kind of, you lose a little bit of control over a situation, whether it's the weather or something else. You kind of take yourself outside of that realm of how we like to compartmentalize things.