790. Anne Ramsey Culevier

Martin Willis (0:13)

So, I'm sitting here with Anne Culevier.

I'm so glad to be sitting here with you because I've heard about you for so many years and the gatherings you've had down here in beautiful Newport, Rhode Island. So, let's talk about what started you on this path.

Anne Ramsey Cuvelier (0:31)

I was a travel agent in the San Francisco area, and one of my clients called and asked for a ticket to go to a conference in Las Vegas. And I rhetorically said, Oh, what kind of a conference? And they said, UFO. And I said, I'm going to.

So, I went, I was interested in UFOs. And then people, Bob Brown put the conference on, but then it moved to Laughlin. And Bob Brown, I was interested in UFOs, but then people started talking about abductions. And I thought, well, okay, you know, I don't know what's going on with that. But when I was, my father had mentioned, when I was, I don't know, 12 or 13, he said, damn this thing. These things hover, take off at incredible speed. I said, what? But that was the end of that conversation. Now he was a good friend of Forrestal.

And, you know, Forrestal and Kennedy, interestingly enough, you can edit this out if you want, but they both were researching UFOs. They both were murdered. Forrestal, very strange. You know, he was in the middle of transcribing Socrates.

Martin Willis (1:33)

He was out the window, right?

Anne Ramsey Cuvelier (1:36)

Yeah, but he had his robe tied around his neck. And the orderly who usually was at the door wasn't there at the time.

It's very strange. Peter Robbins did a story on that. Yeah, so anyway, my father was, as I say, very close to him. And my father was Naval Academy, class of 24 And then he was a liaison for the Navy to Congress. So that's how he had some of this information, I think. But anyway, I started going.

And then I was on a UFO investigating trip in Puerto Rico. And I met a friend from Scotland who was also researching this type of thing. So then I decided, I invited them to the house. And then I decided to just invite people who had experiences and talk about everything, whatever came up in the discussions. We had many people there. And it was great to be able to discuss what was happening. Because not many people back in those days would even listen to you when you talk. Some of my neighbors would cross the street when those people were at my house.

Martin Willis (2:49)

This is here in Newport when you had your first home?

Anne Ramsey Cuvelier (2:51)

Yes. I had a very large 12-room house. It was a family house. It had been in the family since 1895

And a sideline of this. Lizzie Borden was a very close friend of our family. I have two forks that she gave us as a gift after she stayed with the family, because they were convinced of her innocence. But anyway, yeah, so I just, you know, fascinated with the subject and the veracity of the people. I, you know, Jim and Chuck and-

Martin Willis (3:22)

She's talking about the Allagash.

Anne Ramsey Cuvelier (3:24)

Allagash abduction and Jim's brother who just passed away, Jack, unfortunately. So they would come and we would just talk about, you know, everything that would come up on the subject.

Martin Willis (3:37)

So was it like it started out like an informal type of situation and then became a ritual? Is that how-

Anne Ramsey Cuvelier (3:42)

Yeah, but it stayed an informal situation. We would sit around and, you know, I have lunch and dinner and breakfast for everybody. I had a wraparound piazza and we would just sit and talk about, you know, everything that- I remember one time, Chuck was showing his slides and he showed one where the ETs who had opposable digits, picking up-

picking him up, and then Alita who was- that's how they did it. I never could figure out how they could pick me up. But, you know, so they had- she- it was very enlightening for her to see that they had opposable digits, so they- that's how they abducted her.

But, I mean, I feel these poor people who had been abducted and no one would listen, they're now listening. They're listening now.

Martin Willis (4:27)

Yes, yeah, they are. And I heard through Randall Nickerson, you know, about coming here, he said, well, tomorrow- I was talking to him one time, he says, tomorrow I'm going to Rhode Island, we do this every year. And he really looked forward to it.