#778: Give Your Agent a Bitcoin Wallet with Vinny

**SPEAKER_1** (0:07)
You've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free.
When you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. So it's all acting like safe haven.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:18)
I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins. In a world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:29)
I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:31)
If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

**Marty Bent** (0:36)
Vinny, you're a very quick internet celebrity this week. Welcome to the show.

**Vinny** (0:42)
Yeah, pretty crazy. I like May Day. Thanks for having me, Marty. It's nice to finally meet you in person. I'm a subscriber to the TFTC and I like what you guys do, so it's cool to be on the show.
I made a goal to post videos and be more active on Twitter, and three videos later, I got Jack Dorsey retweeting me, so that worked out pretty well.

**Marty Bent** (1:10)
It's pretty sweet. It's the name of the game these days, content marketing. You got to get in it, prove that you know something.
It's tiring at some times.

**Vinny** (1:20)
Yeah, right. People beating you to the punch, getting the people they want on their podcast before you, stuff like that.

**Marty Bent** (1:29)
Hey, Greg beat me to the punch this week, but no, we had that back and forth last week. I think we reposted your original video on Buzz, and I quote speeded about sort of L402 agentic payments and imagining that.
I think we definitely talk about Buzz. We are going to talk about Buzz and how it works, but I think taking a step back and just thinking about using these agents in general or using agents, using AI models, thinking like of harnesses, models, agents, like that's where I feel like most people on the outside looking in if you haven't been playing around with these tools for a lot, it's all so confusing. And most people don't know where to start and we've started, we actually launched this TFTC roundtable where we just have like a private group of people and we've been playing with this stuff for like two years now with the models at the very least, but with the harnesses and open claw and Hermes for the last seven months. And we're like, okay, we sort of know our way around and we're not technical at all. I know enough to be dangerous, but certainly I want to consider myself a software engineer, set up my first VPS in January of this year.

**Vinny** (2:46)
But I set up my first VPS two weeks ago and I am a software engineer.
Yeah. Mostly hosting on Cloud providers and stuff like that. Yeah.

**Marty Bent** (3:01)
But I mean, based off of our pre-recording, a little powwow there, how do you view the state of AI and these tools and how to use them and how people should be?

**Vinny** (3:13)
I think you summed it up pretty well because it's really cool. It's very surprising to me to see how technical people like you can sound.
You guys, you run your business, you know your workflows, you know how to describe what it is you need, and the agents are able to give you that stuff, and then you're able to learn very quickly. You don't know the code syntax, but you're talking about hosting stuff on virtual private servers and things like that. It's pretty amazing the technical ability and the level of knowledge that you can attain just by using these tools. So I think that's where we're at. I think where the playing field is being leveled. There are definitely the doers and the non-doers, but it's no longer limited by technical ability anymore.

**Marty Bent** (4:03)
No, it's certainly not. You just talk to your computer. That's like another thing that fascinates me. It seems like the form factor or the medium through which we interact with computers is changing.

**Vinny** (4:14)
I mean, that's what software development is, right? You were talking to your computer, but in a different kind of language, right? Now you're talking to your computer in English.

**Marty Bent** (4:21)
Yeah, and I'm a huge voice the text maximalist, just option space bar. I saw you were demoing Handy. I use Super Whisper. I haven't tried Handy yet, but it looked very similar.
How long have you been playing with these tools? Obviously, you've been demoing Buzz, but I imagine you're building Wasp, which is trying to solve one of the pain points of people interacting with these models and these agents. What's your journey been experimenting with this?