**SPEAKER_2** (0:07)
You've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free.
When you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. So it's all acting like safe haven.
**SPEAKER_3** (0:18)
I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.
**SPEAKER_2** (0:29)
I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.
**SPEAKER_3** (0:31)
If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.
**Marty Bent** (0:36)
Bitcoin Twitter is truly gay now.
**NVK** (0:40)
I don't know what's happening, man.
With like the... I mean, listen, bear markets are always a little rainbow, right? But this one is just unbelievable. There's no memes anymore. There was no memes on the pump. That's why we didn't have a proper pump. You know, I already found the laser eye to be a horrible rainbow meme.
But like seriously, like it was better than nothing. This year is just nothing. Like, you know, there is people don't have fun anymore. I think just a lot of people just got bored, laughed. You know, Bitcoin won. You know, we won. That's it. You know, like now it's just sort of like boring pipe. You know, it's like the pipes, right? Blumming and, you know, now we just go sort of add more value to it, but not like we're no longer revolutionaries. You know, the pension funds, when the pension funds are buying your asset, you're no longer a revolutionary.
**Marty Bent** (1:45)
Does that mean we lost our way?
**NVK** (1:48)
No, it's just that, you know, like you can only be counterculture when you are counter to the culture, right? When the culture catches up with you, you're no longer counterculture. It doesn't matter how edgy you want to dress, you know, like how orange your tie is, or, you know, like, it doesn't matter. Like, we're no longer counterculture. It really is that simple.
**Marty Bent** (2:09)
But has the broader culture gotten on board with Bitcoin? I don't think so. I think we're in this weird period. Everybody's bored and everybody's worried that nobody else is going to care about Bitcoin.
**NVK** (2:18)
I think it's because, like, okay, here's my unifying theory of markets right now. It's retard maxing it, right? So the problem right now is that, like, America just became absolutely, incredibly productive again.
Like, it's insanely productive. Like, I've never seen, like, Americans already are the only country in the world where people work, right? Like, no, seriously, like, people cannot comprehend, like, the difference between, like, you know, even the laziest place in America versus, you know, the most productive place in, like, say, Europe or whatever, right? Like, you know, Americans work to begin with, right? And then, like, now you have, like, all these stars aligning of, you know, you have, like, you know, hate it or like it. You have a president that's more business-oriented, right? You have, like, you know, like, some enemies now, you know, like, ooh, China, ooh, Iran or whatever, right? So you can gather, you know, people to go on a common path. You know, you have Elon ripping it, right? I mean, the dude is, like, literally putting, like, I don't know, 15,000 satellites a year or something in space or whatever it is.
You know, by the way, the next close one is, I think, Japan and they put, like, I don't know, like, you know, two. There's no, it's like the scale in which America is being productive now is just insane. So that, that essentially counters economically to the insane amount of money printing and economic retardation that the same country produces, you know. And then the rest of the world has no choice but to buy your debt, right? So, you know, you, you, you were essentially, at least for now, for another, you know, year, you know, whatever, like, as long as something doesn't break, like, you know, you, you essentially countered the fiat disaster, you know, at least in how people sort of feel it on the daily, right? And, you know, if the world is not ending economically, people are less interested in Bitcoin.
**Marty Bent** (4:31)
It's a fact.
I'm having so much fun. I know you are too.
**NVK** (4:36)
It's so much fun.
You know, it's never been like this great. Like, you can just build shit. You know what I mean? Like, all the code you didn't want to write, you can have the bots do it for you.
**Marty Bent** (4:48)
Well, that was the last time you were on, we were talking about, what was your project that gave you access to LLMs? What the hell was it called?
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