541 - House or Wife

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:16)
Hello, and welcome to My Favorite Murder.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:19)
That is Georgia Hardstark.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:21)
That's Karen Kilgariff.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:22)
And we're here to podcast at you.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:24)
We do it every day of our lives.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:26)
How are you?

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:26)
Good, how are you?

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:28)
I'm good. It's like a lovely summer day.
I just kind of wanted to sit outside all day long. Yeah, smoke cigarettes. You know, when it's hot and you just want to smoke a big long Virginia Slim? You know, the kids are starting to smoke again.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:43)
Like real cigarettes?

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:44)
Yeah.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:44)
Not vapes.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:45)
I mean, hopefully.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:46)
Yeah.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:46)
Vapes are just immediately killing children.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:49)
Yeah.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:50)
That is allegedly.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:51)
Also, cigarettes aren't great either.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:53)
But cigarettes won't get you healthier. They won't.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:55)
They won't.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:56)
There's so many things now that it's like, remember the story we did where it's like the green wallpaper or the green dresses that were poisoning people in the Victorian era or whatever? It's like, that's vapes.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:06)
Yeah. And you're like, you know that. So you're essentially licking the wallpaper. You're not even like, I didn't know. It's like, you know.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:12)
You're like, the doctor was here, told you to stay away from the wallpaper.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:16)
And then look at you go.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:17)
Look at you.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:17)
With that tongue.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:18)
Mummy, I love the wallpaper.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:21)
The wallpaper tastes like death. I have a kind of an update.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:25)
Okay.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:26)
About, remember when I covered the bodies on Mount Everest in episode 174, called Rough Winds in High Water?

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:34)
Been there.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:35)
Yes. Well, I had mentioned the body of a climber that was called Green Boots because of his distinctive boots. And he was like, what's it called when you're like hiking and he's like a spot that everyone knows along the trail. Landmark? Landmark. Thank you. They could never see his face. And so he had been identified as possibly being one of two men, both from India, but the Indian government has now identified him. They did DNA testing. Wow. They can't move him right now because it's impossible to survive and move a body. But they are sure now that his name is Dorje Malroop and there are plans to recover his body later this summer.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:14)
Do you know how long he's been there?

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:15)
30 years. Wow.
30 years. Well, it's chilling to the photo of him is just, oh, I mean, I just can't get over those.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:25)
It's tough. It's like it's such an extreme decision when people, I mean, that's why they do it, right? And that's why when they come back, they can say they did it. But the danger is.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:35)
I'll never understand the like, I'll never understand a lot of things.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:40)
Agree.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:41)
Climbing Mount Everest is one of the top ones.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:44)
I mean, I told you this multiple times, but there's times where I order like dinner and the doorbell rings and I just can't get off the couch to answer the door.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:53)
To get the food. You can't even climb your own stairs.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:57)
My personal Everest, the living room, which is flat.

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:01)
I couldn't bother.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:02)
I think what I'm always looking for is that get up and go, that people who are like rock climbers and extreme athletes and all those things, they have an engine in there. Is it always on?

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:15)
I don't know. Is it because they cut everything else out of their lives that give them dopamine? You know what I mean? Yeah.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:21)
They have to run for seven miles straight to get that three beer feeling. Exactly. Yeah.

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:26)
Exactly.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:27)
When we know better? When we know the way?

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:29)
We do. When you haven't had those deep conversations after three beers at a bar, that suddenly everything makes sense, of course you're going to go fucking climb a mountain.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:40)
Right. No one comes and talks to you at mile seven.

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:42)
No.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:43)
No, they think that guy's intense and I can't really have a conversation right now. He's into his thing.