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**Karen Kilgariff** (0:17)
Hello and welcome to My Favorite Murder.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:19)
That's Georgia Hardstark.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:20)
That's Karen Kilgariff.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:21)
And we're about to take you on an emotional journey of the soul.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:25)
I love that.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:26)
It just came out.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:27)
Of the podcast soul.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:29)
It's located in your ears.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:30)
In your eardrum. The long dark tea time of the podcast soul.
Okay, hi. You had something to show me?

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:37)
Okay, hi.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:38)
Okay, hi. I forgot how to do this.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:41)
Well, the thing I was gonna show you is, so in episode 533, An Exercise in Frustration, I told a story that featured many, many chin strap beards.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:53)
Right.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:53)
And it was about Elizabeth Packard, who was the woman who was institutionalized, but her husband sent her to an insane asylum.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:59)
Right.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:59)
And then she got out, fought for everybody's rights. But talking about her husband, it was this man, Theodopoulos Packard.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:09)
Theodopoulos.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:10)
Theopolis.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:11)
Still one of the best things I've ever said.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:12)
Theopolis, you're truly the most proud of that one. It was pretty great. It was pretty great in the moment. But we were really enjoying his chin strap ears.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:19)
Yes.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:20)
They also came up in the Henderson-Lewellings story, where the Quaker sex cult story that I recently told. They've just been around us recently.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:28)
We've been sprinkling some neck beard into these stories here and there.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:31)
And the listeners have responded.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:33)
That's right. Did we get chin strap hate mail?

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:36)
Yes, but no, it was essentially just people in the comment section talking about it. And so basically, Jenny Scram on Instagram says, it looks like John C. Riley is dressed up and doing a bit, which is very true.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:49)
It does.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:50)
Dressed up, but just in the bottom half of a beard. Erin Jalisa on Instagram says, the chin strap beard was as bad as I imagined. Thank you.
What in the hell's be? Says, how is this episode not called Beards Abound? Great question. Baseball Girl 247 says, I needed to see that chin strap beard to really get that story.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:12)
Yeah.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:13)
It's terrifying.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:14)
It's like, is that worse or a mullet worse? It's like an old timey mullet party in the front.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:19)
I think this is worse though, because this makes no goddamn sense. The chin is bare.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:24)
Yeah, but they can eat soup. And I bet there was a lot of soup going around then.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:28)
And stews. And porridges.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:30)
Which is so hard to do when you have a beard. I've heard, my husband says.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:35)
I just love that people got into that as well.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:36)
Yeah.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:37)
So then it gave me this idea.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:39)
Okay.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:39)
When you gave me the assignment of watching the drama.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:42)
Right. Oh no, are you going to make me grow a neck beard?

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:45)
Yes. And you have to do it in one week. I want to give you the assignment of you watch a movie called Witness, which has so many neck beards in it, you wouldn't believe it.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:56)
Okay.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:56)
And then we're going to talk about that movie.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:58)
Which one is that?

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:59)
Harrison Ford, Kelly McGillis, Lucas Haas. Harrison Ford goes undercover in an Amish settlement. I don't know if it's-

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:07)
What are they called themselves? What year is it from?

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:10)
It's from like 89

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:11)
Okay. So Lucas Haas is a little boy.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:13)
He's the best child actor ever.

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:14)
I had the biggest crush on him. He is so good.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:17)
A legend. He's so good in this movie. It's so real.
I think you're going to really-

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:24)
Should I check some instance and see if I've already seen it and just totally forgot about it?

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:27)
But I feel like if I said Harrison Ford goes undercover with the Amish, you would have gone, oh yeah, I've seen that.

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:33)
I haven't seen it.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:34)
Also, and that's very much tied to. So Witness is your assignment just in honor of the chin strap beard.