#419 Dave Pascoe and Julie Gibson Clark Discuss Their Diet, Supplements and Exercise Routines

Dave Pascoe (0:00)

The only advice I'd give people is to go get a test, get a blood test, see where you're at. Otherwise, you're just guessing. Don't do exactly what I'm doing, because the things I'm doing, I'm trying to do specifically to address holes or issues in my tests.

Siim Land (0:13)

Welcome to the Siim Land Podcast. Today, we have a special panel discussion with me, Dave Pascoe and Julie Gibson Clark on the Adam Fiskars channel. We discuss things related to health, longevity and our routines.

Adam Fiskars (0:27)

Let me introduce today's fighters in the red corner. At 55 years of age with a Dunedin piece of 0.65, she could be your grandma by age, but your girlfriend by looks, Julie Gibson Clark.

In the blue corner, the ultimate biohacker donning 170 pills a day, 61 years young with a Dunedin piece of 0.66, David Pascoe. And in the green corner, the rookie challenger who got everything a man could wish for, youth, health, and fame ranked 4th in the Rejuvenation Olympics leaderboard. 27 years old with a Dunedin piece of 0.62, Siim Land. Welcome. The very first panel conversation of the Immortal Combat.

Dave Pascoe (1:34)

I thought we would go by our epigenetic ages, not our chronological, but that's okay.

Siim Land (1:39)

I'm actually 30 almost now, so in a few weeks, I'll get 30

Dave Pascoe (1:44)

You are so-

Adam Fiskars (1:46)

Happy birthday.

Julie Gibson Clark (1:46)

Happy almost birthday. When is that?

Siim Land (1:49)

It's in 16th September.

Julie Gibson Clark (1:52)

October 12th, I'll be 56

Dave Pascoe (1:55)

Nice. So we have to have a party on both of those days.

Julie Gibson Clark (1:59)

Well, I just say Dave just had a birthday, so yay.

Dave Pascoe (2:02)

Just last week?

Siim Land (2:04)

62

Julie Gibson Clark (2:04)

Happy birthday. Looking good.

Adam Fiskars (2:07)

Well, Brian Johnson is celebrating his birthday based on the need and pace, so it's not every year. Don't you guys want to do the same?

Siim Land (2:16)

It can be hard to count it, or how do you track that?

Julie Gibson Clark (2:20)

Right. It's like a lunar calendar kind of thing, trying to track that. That would be crazy.

Adam Fiskars (2:25)

Well, it's even harder because your pace of ageing changes in every, I don't know, maybe moment, but definitely every day. So that's hard to count for sure.

Dave Pascoe (2:39)

Mine is certainly all right, that's for sure.

Adam Fiskars (2:41)

Okay. Let's get down to business here. I want to start with an insightful question. And please answer in any order you find your own answers to this. The same question to everyone. How much time do you think you have left?

Julie Gibson Clark (3:06)

Oh, how much time do I think I have left? Well, I'm hoping for 50 more years at least, and solid years, you know? I mean, I don't want 50 years and 20 of them to be completely frail, so I'm hoping.

That's what I'm training for, 50 more years at least.

Dave Pascoe (3:26)

According to my grim age, I'm gonna check out on Friday. I have no idea.

I just want to live as healthy as possible until the day I drop, whenever that's gonna be.

Julie Gibson Clark (3:39)

Right?

Siim Land (3:40)

Yeah, it's like you never know when, or it's like I think wrong focus to have, like how much time you have left, because you never know when it's gonna happen. And even if it does happen, then you know, it just everything disappears, so you don't even have the recollection of the past memories. So you literally don't have anything else left, so you don't even know that it had happened. So like, you know, it could happen like every second, and then there's nothing even to interpret that it had happened, if that makes sense. So I think there's nothing like really tangible to like think about it, because a lot of it comes to like, I'm afraid of like the death or that there's not enough time left, but the reality is when it happens, then you don't have no idea that it had happened.

So it just stops existing this idea of yourself. So there's nothing like really scary. There's no nothing to be scared about it actually.

Julie Gibson Clark (4:38)

I was just saying like, you know, plan for the worst and hope for the best. I mean, the worst that could happen is that I live another 50 years and God forbid I'd be frail, but you know, I'm gonna hope for that. But unfortunately, I know all too well that I could walk out tomorrow, I could be out walking and get by a car. You know, these things happen. So it is kind of silly to put any sort of numbers on it. But you know, I'm gonna work out and eat as if I'll be healthy for the next 50 years.