#417 – Kimbal Musk: The Art of Cooking, Tesla, SpaceX, Zip2, and Family

**Lex Fridman** (0:00)
The following is a conversation with Kimbal Musk, a long time entrepreneur and chef and author of a new cookbook called The Kitchen Cookbook, Cooking for Your Community. You should check it out. It is in fact, the first cookbook I've ever owned. I've already made stuff from it, and it's delicious. And now, a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description. It is the best way to support this podcast. We got 8Sleep for naps, ExpressVPN for security and privacy on the interwebs, NetSuite for business, and BetterHelp for mental health. Choose wisely, my friends. Also, if you want to work with our amazing team, or just want to get in touch with me for a bunch of different reasons, please go to lexfridman.com/contact.
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