#343 Jimmy Watson - John McAfee's Bodyguard Reveals the Dead Man's Switch

Jimmy Watson (0:00)

Honey, what are you listening to?

Shawn Ryan (0:02)

Mom!

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Jimmy Watson (0:36)

You know, because I've kind of done the part, you know, on the circuit, and this is on another level.

Shawn Ryan (0:41)

Oh, thank you, dude.

Jimmy Watson (0:42)

Everything.

Shawn Ryan (0:43)

Well, got a killer team, awesome team, and wasn't always like this, so.

Jimmy Watson (0:50)

Right.

Shawn Ryan (0:50)

Started off in the attic.

Jimmy Watson (0:53)

So. Yeah, that's what he was telling me. Your guy, man.

He said, this happened. You were just sending hard drives.

Shawn Ryan (0:59)

Dude, before that, it was me and my wife. And I was sitting here running sound while I was interviewing. And my wife, we had these cameras that would only record 30 minutes at a time.

And so my wife would run back and forth and reset the cameras, depending on who's talking.

Shawn Ryan (1:16)

My girl was so she goes, Shawn Ryan. She goes, how he how he becomes like this? How he do it?

Jimmy Watson (1:22)

How he do it?

Shawn Ryan (1:22)

You know, like she talks like that. I'm like, how he do it?

Jimmy Watson (1:25)

Like, you mean, how is he like a million?

Shawn Ryan (1:26)

How how how do you become so successful?

Jimmy Watson (1:29)

I said, he he's got a badass show and he's super intelligent, smart about it in your marketing and everything. And there's a lot that goes into it. And also you got in.

I'm sure the timing is good too, but I don't know.

Shawn Ryan (1:43)

Well, I don't know, man. Probably. You got in a while.

I just, I, when I did it, I was like, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna do it different than everybody else. Everybody had a purple curtain, you know, the Joe Rogan curtain.

SPEAKER_3 (1:56)

Yeah.

Shawn Ryan (1:57)

And everybody had the headphones.

SPEAKER_3 (1:59)

You're right.

Shawn Ryan (2:00)

I was the first one to come on here. And I was like, I'm gonna learn how to edit. I'm gonna do previews as promotional pieces.

Nobody was doing that. Nobody had like a set like this where there was not a mic shoved in your face and headphones. And so I just wanted to make it very relaxed.

Jimmy Watson (2:18)

You know what I mean?

Shawn Ryan (2:18)

And so now like everybody's doing it, which is great. You know, lifted the whole industry.

Jimmy Watson (2:26)

Right. I told myself, I was like, you know, I'm gonna tell Shawn, just I know you've been lied to a lot. So my number one goal is just not to lie today. You know what I'm saying, brother? Thank you. So try to eliminate some of that.

You know, like, because I saw your interview, man, I laughed so hard. I can't imagine.

Shawn Ryan (2:44)

Yeah. I should have expected it.

Jimmy Watson (2:48)

Well, my biggest mistake in life, I think, is my trusting nature to me.

Shawn Ryan (2:56)

Yeah.

Jimmy Watson (2:56)

Characteristic is to trust people, latch on to people quickly and become friends and a chameleon kind of like, oh yeah, we're best friends now. And I mean it, it's authentic. But, but man, it's crushed me.

Shawn Ryan (3:06)

Now I know what you mean.

Jimmy Watson (3:07)

You know, my, my, you know, McAfee, John McAfee, he once told me, he said, son, you could be a billionaire.

Shawn Ryan (3:14)

He goes, but you got one problem.

Jimmy Watson (3:15)

He said, you could be such a good businessman. I said, sir, you name it and I will, I will kill it right now. And I, because I want that success. You name my problem and I'll get rid of it. I swear to God. He goes, I'm sorry, son. You, you, there's no getting rid of this one. I said, tell me and I'll get rid of it. And he says, no. And I said, what then? He said, it's your heart. He said, that's what's going to, he said, that's what's going to get in the way and you won't become as successful as you could be.

And he was right. Because I have these loyalty things still.

And I'm better at it now.