#342 Garand Thumb - SERE Specialist on Surviving the Most Dangerous Places on Earth

Shawn Ryan (0:00)

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Mike Jones (1:16)

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Shawn Ryan (1:31)

Mike Jones.

Mike Jones (1:32)

How are you doing, sir?

Shawn Ryan (1:33)

Dude, welcome.

Mike Jones (1:34)

Thank you. I'm really excited to be here. This is it's a little surreal to be in the room, like for real. You know, thank you. You know what I mean?

Shawn Ryan (1:41)

There's some cool stuff in here. Did they tell you about any of this stuff?

Mike Jones (1:43)

They did. Yeah. He was given like the full kind of tour of everything. And there is an insane amount of history from World War Two, you know, swords to flags recovered during the evacuation of Kabul. Like I am in awe of the individuals and the memorabilia and the history that's just surrounding me right now.

Shawn Ryan (2:03)

Me too. Every day I step in here. I was like, wow.

Mike Jones (2:06)

What a great setting to have a discussion, to be honest.

Shawn Ryan (2:09)

Thank you. Thank you, Ben.

Well, I'm pumped you're here.

Mike Jones (2:12)

Oh, thank you. I'm pumped to be here. We've been talking about this for two years. Two years.

I told, when she texted me about it, I told you, like, I got the text. I'm like, oh, cool, Shawn Ryan. Yeah, I'll hop on. And then that night I was like laying in bed. I was like, I am not cool enough to be on Shawn Ryan.

Shawn Ryan (2:30)

Dude, you are definitely cool.

Mike Jones (2:32)

Well, thank you. I'm, you know, I came out here. My buddies are like, dude, you have some fun stuff to say. So I'm just happy to be able to discuss, I think some pretty interesting topics that are very, very applicable right now to this day and age. So I think it will be a really good discussion.

Shawn Ryan (2:48)

Yeah, I want to, I mean, I definitely want to do a prepping segment. I know you spent a lot of time in Ukraine recently, right?

Mike Jones (2:54)

No, no, no, no. We've interviewed a lot of people who have come from Ukraine and we've been working very heavily with companies that are drone related, whether it be, you know, Power Us, et cetera, like working on US drone programs, like trying to get those guys up to speed.

Shawn Ryan (3:11)

Yeah, I can't wait to talk about that.

Mike Jones (3:12)

Oh, dude.

Shawn Ryan (3:13)

And then I saw there's a segment in here where we're going to talk about the fact that the US and China are so good at jamming each other's shit. And so we're doing all this drone warfare, and it might just, if that were to happen.

Mike Jones (3:28)

If it were to happen.

Shawn Ryan (3:29)

You know what I mean? It might just come back down to regular, you know, GWAT rule, GWAT style tactical, you know, stuff like that.

Mike Jones (3:39)

Yeah, backhanded arm signals. So it always kind of comes back to fieldcraft, doesn't it? Every time.

Shawn Ryan (3:44)

Yeah. So yeah, we're going to have an awesome discussion.

Mike Jones (3:47)

I can't wait.

Shawn Ryan (3:48)

But and I'd love to chat with you about some YouTube stuff, too.

Mike Jones (3:52)

Oh, yeah.

Shawn Ryan (3:52)

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Mike Jones (3:53)

Believe me, dude, I will help you out. We got some good contacts there. We'll get you spun up if you have any problems with them.