#2563 - Dan Richards

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Joe Rogan Podcast, checking in.

Joe Rogan (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

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Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Danny.

Dan Richards (0:12)

Hey, Joe.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Good to see you, brother.

Dan Richards (0:14)

Good to see you, too, man.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

So right off the bat, you hand me this Smithsonian pamphlet. It's like a very small book on Peruvian elongated skulls, including like diagrams.

Dan Richards (0:27)

Yeah, but not Peruvian. These are from the Pacific Northwest. Oh. From Washington. This is one of the things where I wanted to really bring up to you. The majority of the elongated skulls in recorded history are from Washington State. What? Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:39)

Now, are these manipulated skulls?

Dan Richards (0:42)

Yes, sir. They were manipulated by people. As a matter of fact, when Lewis and Clark reached the Columbia River, they passed the Cascade Mountains, all of the Native Americans west of the Cascades had artificially modified skulls. Look at the title of the book, The Chinook Sign of Freedom. If you didn't have an artificially modified skull, you were a slave.

Joe Rogan (1:02)

Wow. The Chinook Sign of Freedom, a study that skulls the famous chief, how do you say his name?

Dan Richards (1:09)

Concomley.

And he was, he met with Lewis and Clark during their expedition. And he was as famous as Sacajawea was 100 years ago. But he just disappeared. He had an artificially elongated skull, a bunch of images talk about it. He attributed his intellect to his artificially elongated skull.

Joe Rogan (1:34)

What?

Dan Richards (1:34)

Yeah. They believed-

Joe Rogan (1:36)

How would you know though?

Dan Richards (1:37)

They don't.

Joe Rogan (1:37)

They did it when you were a baby.

Dan Richards (1:39)

Exactly. But that's what they all believed. And there is actually something too. This is one of the things that's really interesting that I've stumbled on is, you know, Neanderthal, if you look at the difference between a Neanderthal brain case and a human brain case, there's a huge difference. I have an image, if you don't mind, Jamie, you can throw it up there if you don't care.

But it's all in the back. It's like there's a thing called Chiari Malformation Type I, where the base of your cerebellum falls into your spinal cord, it causes migraines and all kinds of stuff. And scientists now are saying that it probably came from us and Neanderthal. Brain case, skull, not quite fitting. And if you think about it, it actually makes a lot of sense, right? I mean, the Neanderthal skull is way wide in the back. And that's where all of your motor skills, your smelling, your seeing, your hearing.

Joe Rogan (2:28)

Yeah, they were more primitive. They're probably super athletes. And the real, the weird question is, like, were they smart? And how smart were they? Like, their frontal lobe is not as big as ours, correct?

Dan Richards (2:40)

Correct.

Joe Rogan (2:41)

And that's where all the thought processing and decision making comes from. So they probably had insane athletic ability.

Dan Richards (2:49)

Oh, yeah, absolutely. And motor skills and visual ability.

Joe Rogan (2:52)

The visual ability is important, because look at the size of their eye sockets.

Dan Richards (2:56)

Now imagine if you wanted the best of both worlds. So you were breeding these two species together.

Joe Rogan (3:02)

Look at the jaw on that motherfucker. Imagine trying to knock that guy out. Good luck.

Dan Richards (3:07)

Forget about it. They had chests like barrels, too. Right. They all look like you do naturally. They don't have to lift. They're just that way.

Joe Rogan (3:15)

They probably look a lot more impressive than me.

Dan Richards (3:17)

Well, the guy on the left, he looked like me naturally.

Joe Rogan (3:21)

I mean, do you remember that one? I think it's just nonsense. But there's this one guy who proposed the idea of Neanderthals being like guerrilla-looking, like super predators.

And he thought that the eyes were bigger so they could see at night. And he had like this crazy...

Dan Richards (3:39)

They were eating us all, yes.

Joe Rogan (3:40)

Right, right, right. Very sensationalist nonsense.

Dan Richards (3:43)

And the genetic evidence is what, you know...

Joe Rogan (3:45)

Yeah, that guy. It was fucking dope, though. It is cool. I love it. Seeing the dark primate that lives in the woods and was like infinitely stronger than us. Like, it could just rip our arms, right? Like, gorilla strong.

Dan Richards (3:58)

But not smart enough that you could like, hey man, can you please? No, no, no, no, no, he's just going to eat you.