#2560 - David Grusch

David Grusch (0:01)

Joe Rogan Podcast, checking in.

Joe Rogan (0:03)

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David Grusch (0:14)

Thanks for having me back on. My pleasure. Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

Well, you're the one who's closest to the flame, so tell me what's going on.

David Grusch (0:20)

Oh, I know, right? So, living the nightmare is what I tell my friends, so it's definitely been a tough several years or so. And, you know, last time we were on just testified in front of Congress, and the UAP Disclosure Act of 23 was, you know, possibly getting passed. It failed to get passed. And then I, based on, you know, things I know about the Biden administration, things I heard from the White House, I decided to kind of lay low for a year. So 24, I didn't do too much. And then Representative Burleson had this crazy idea to hire me as a professional staff member for Congress, working for him. Turns out, I guess, I was like the first guy that ever testified in front of Congress as a whistleblower and then being subsequently hired by Congress. I was the first guy to ever do that, which is very interesting and very cool. And I do thank Burleson for, you know, his leadership on that. And so I did that for about a year and a half.

Just finished up, actually. I was like, you know what, I'm staying longer than I thought. You know, I'm going to wait until Labor Day, see where things are. I worked pretty hard over summer recess in August and decided to, you know, wind down some of my activities because I accomplished a lot of my objectives. We can get into that, obviously. And then kind of move into, I'll call it my next phase of operations, which includes a little break for me.

It's been very tiring. I've been kind of, you know, going full throttle for the last couple years and whatnot. And so we're really at, I think, a poignant moment in US history with what Trump's done and the things you've seen in the media and whatnot. And there's a lot of other stuff happening behind the scenes. Because, you know, a lot of my work has been private, behind the scenes, you know, working for Congress, specifically Representative Burleson. So let me ask you the environment.

Joe Rogan (2:08)

So are there some people in Congress that are interested in disclosure of this stuff and pursue you and want to find out information and want you to tell them what's going on? And are there other people that are resisting this?

David Grusch (2:24)

Yeah, I think there's a big bifurcation of the non-believers and then kind of the UAP Caucus, although you see more and more people kind of signing on to the cause. Like I did a presser back in June in front of the Capitol with members, and we even had Brigadier General retired Representative Scott Perry there, who was on the House Intelligence Committee from my home state of PA.

And it was good to see other members, you know, start showing that they support the cause. And it has been challenging behind the scenes, and I had many SCIF classified meetings with the members, kind of going over the topological history of this topic, and some of the deeper, darker kind of criminal stuff I bumped into, and how I worked with DOJ to kind of highlight some of that stuff.

Joe Rogan (3:06)

What kind of criminal stuff?

David Grusch (3:07)

Yeah, so when I was looking into this, I had to be very respectful of my participation, just because it's an ongoing thing with DOJ.

I was following the money, bumping into other activities, very much like, actually it's sort of related. If you saw on the news that David Grusch, very similar name to me, it's kind of freaky, but he was arrested with $40 million of gold bars. He was a CIA officer. He made a fake continuity of government special access program, and he went under the radar basically doing his own thing, and getting gold and Rolexes and stuff, and the FBI raided his house back in May. True story. Yeah, the guy has a...

Joe Rogan (3:50)

Is that gold bars?

David Grusch (3:51)

He has... He had $40 million of gold bars.

Joe Rogan (3:53)

Where did he get the gold bars?

David Grusch (3:55)

From the agency.

Joe Rogan (3:56)

They have them laying around?

David Grusch (3:58)

Yeah, I can't get into all the details of why the government... Wait a minute. Hold on.

Joe Rogan (4:01)

The government has gold bars? Yeah.