#2543 - MrBallen

**SPEAKER_1** (0:01)
Joe Rogan Podcast, checking out The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Joe Rogan** (0:06)
Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

**John B. Allen** (0:13)
It's going good, man, this is crazy. I can't believe I'm here.

**Joe Rogan** (0:17)
I can't believe anybody can't believe they're here.

**John B. Allen** (0:20)
I do, this is like hallowed ground. I've been watching you like the rest of the world for years. I've seen so many clips of this space.
So many references to Jamie, and to be here right now is very cool. So I'm honored. Thank you. Thank you.

**Joe Rogan** (0:34)
Thank you. I'm glad you're here. Yeah, it is always weird when you go someplace where you, like the first time I did Howard Stern, I felt the same way.
Like you're in the building like, what the fuck? This is the actual Howard Stern show that I used to listen to on the radio. It really freaked me out. I couldn't sleep the night before. I did yoga in my hotel room, try to calm down.

**John B. Allen** (0:52)
When was this? When did you do this?

**Joe Rogan** (0:54)
Long time ago, 2001 or something like that.

**John B. Allen** (0:59)
Was this like prime Fear Factor days?

**Joe Rogan** (1:02)
You know what? I might have done it before I did Fear Factor.

**John B. Allen** (1:05)
Great show, by the way.

**Joe Rogan** (1:07)
Thank you.

**John B. Allen** (1:07)
Great show. Seriously.

**Joe Rogan** (1:10)
It was a good sign our society was about to crumble. When historians go back and look at the decline of society, they're like, when they started making people eat dicks on TV, they started making people eat animal balls and animal dicks on TV. That might have been-

**John B. Allen** (1:27)
That was the start. Then it was Rogan's interview on that show. What's his name again?
I blacked out the guy you just said you had an interview with. Howard Stern.

**Joe Rogan** (1:37)
Well, it was like we did Fear Factor. It started airing right after September 11th, literally right after.

**John B. Allen** (1:47)
Fear Factor Day.

**Joe Rogan** (1:48)
And one of the narratives, one of the reporters asked me and one of those stupid press junket things you have to do was, is it, do you think it's appropriate to scare Americans right after what just happened in 9-11?

**SPEAKER_3** (2:02)
I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?

**John B. Allen** (2:04)
This is on me now?

**Joe Rogan** (2:05)
I'm like, what are you talking about? It's distraction, it's entertainment, and they're eating animal dicks. It's very simple. Shut the fuck up, watch it or don't watch it, who cares?
But it's like, if you wanted to look at where society started, you used to be like, friends, Seinfeld, yeah.

**John B. Allen** (2:27)
The good old days, if you will.

**Joe Rogan** (2:28)
The good old days, Miami Vice. It was television shows that were like shows, and then all of a sudden, anybody could be on TV if you're willing to eat the animal dicks.

**John B. Allen** (2:38)
It's true, that was the threshold.

**Joe Rogan** (2:40)
Yeah.

**John B. Allen** (2:40)
Pretty good.

**Joe Rogan** (2:41)
It's weird because that kind of ushered in social media. It's very similar in a lot of ways, like the people that were willing to go on these reality shows, especially stuff like Big Brother, where you just live in a house with a bunch of people. Like how fucking weird. You're just being filmed constantly in this pressure situation and the producers are fucking, Mike's been talking a lot of shit behind your back. You might want to get ahead of this. Like, what? Mike?

**John B. Allen** (3:04)
I could never do that.

**Joe Rogan** (3:05)
Yeah. No, well, you're not stupid.
Or you're not young, or you're not desperate. We had a lot of people that were just in credit card debt and shit, and they were like, look, if I can win this fucking thing, like normal people, they're like, look, it could be fun. I'll tell my kids about it. We've been watching this forever and I can win $50,000 so I can pay off my credit card debt.

**John B. Allen** (3:25)
That's noble, dude.

**Joe Rogan** (3:26)
Well, sometimes people have to do what they have to do. But there's also a lot of people that want attention in any way possible.
You see so many people online that are doing stuff that have fucking nothing to say, but they're just trying to find something where people will pay attention to them. What's running up to people and slapping them, throwing glasses of water in their face, whatever they have to do. Anything they have to do to get attention. If you trace that back, it started with reality shows where people started to be able to get attention, just being a buffoon.