#2537 - David Sinclair

**Joe Rogan** (0:01)
Joe Rogan Podcast, checking in.

**David Sinclair** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Jamie** (0:06)
Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Mr. Sinclair, good to see you again.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:15)
Dr. Sinclair?

**David Sinclair** (0:16)
Doctor.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:17)
I'm kidding, you can call me David.

**David Sinclair** (0:19)
Yeah, do you ever introduce yourself as doctor?

**SPEAKER_4** (0:21)
Never.

**David Sinclair** (0:22)
Yeah, that's a kind of a, it's a weird thing because you're allowed to.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:26)
I'm actually a Sir David from Australia, but.

**David Sinclair** (0:28)
Are you a sir?

**SPEAKER_4** (0:29)
Yeah, but it's kind of a joke, I don't really.

**David Sinclair** (0:31)
What is that, how does that work out? Did you get knighted or some shit?

**SPEAKER_4** (0:35)
The Queen's representative gave me some Australian version of a knighthood. But I get to put AO at the end of my name.

**David Sinclair** (0:43)
AO?

**SPEAKER_4** (0:43)
Yeah, Order of Australia. But it actually makes no difference to my life, so it's just an extra couple of letters.

**David Sinclair** (0:50)
It's kind of cool.

**Joe Rogan** (0:51)
Let people know.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:52)
I'm honoured for sure, but it's just a joke.

**David Sinclair** (0:58)
Well, it's kind of anybody, sir. You meet a guy at the gas station. How are you doing, sir?

**Joe Rogan** (1:03)
There's that.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:03)
It's like, wow, how does he know?

**Jamie** (1:05)
Right.

**David Sinclair** (1:06)
You don't say, how are you doing, King?

**SPEAKER_4** (1:08)
Yeah.

**Jamie** (1:08)
Right?

**SPEAKER_4** (1:09)
Well, I'm David. I'm Australian. So in Australia, if you have any ego, you get beaten up in the playground.

**David Sinclair** (1:14)
That is true. Australia is the land of the tall poppy syndrome.
They don't fuck around. They don't like to get in a big head in Australia.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:23)
That is true. I like to go back there, though, because it's an even level playing field. Nobody cares who you are.

**David Sinclair** (1:28)
I love the people there. Australian people are some of my favorite people. They're awesome.
They're very friendly and fun. It's a great place to be. It's just too far to get there. Such a haul.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:40)
No, if you just whiskey in an Ambien and you're there without.

**David Sinclair** (1:43)
Is that what you do?

**SPEAKER_4** (1:44)
I used to. I've gone clean. I don't drink much at all anymore.

**Joe Rogan** (1:49)
What does that mean?

**David Sinclair** (1:49)
How often do you drink much at all?

**Joe Rogan** (1:51)
Do you want to drink right now?

**SPEAKER_4** (1:53)
No, it would be a bad luck. I've got the coffee that you gave me.

**David Sinclair** (1:57)
This is Laird Superfood Coffee. So Laird Hamilton, it's black rifle coffee mixed with his superfood stuff, which is this one's turmeric. So it's turmeric and I think it has coconut milk in it and some other jazz.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:12)
Oh, it's great. Anti-inflammatory.

**David Sinclair** (2:14)
Yes, which I know you're all about.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:17)
Yes, as a prophet of longevity.

**David Sinclair** (2:21)
Yes. Is that another title of you?

**SPEAKER_4** (2:25)
Yes, you can call me Sir David the Prophet. How about that?

**David Sinclair** (2:29)
Sir David the Prophet, Dr. Sir David the Prophet of Longevity.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:33)
That'll do.

**David Sinclair** (2:34)
So there's a lot. Let's just jump right into it, because there is a lot going on in the longevity space.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:39)
I think you're having me back on.

**David Sinclair** (2:41)
My pleasure.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:42)
By the way, I also want to thank you for, I think this is fourth time on, which is amazing. Thank you. Congrats on all your success. Thank you. It's been wonderful to see.
Also, the book that I wrote, which you first had me on to promote, has done so well, and it's really because of you. And the book, Lifespan, became a bestseller. Not just that, but it's now been read millions of times around the world.

**David Sinclair** (3:04)
Well, that's phenomenal, and it's my pleasure.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:07)
And that's not a promo. As you know, you don't make any money from books, really. But I'm just honored that it was read by so many people around the world, because it wasn't an easy read. It was high-tech science.

**David Sinclair** (3:18)
Well, people are very interested, especially nowadays. I think I've never... I can't recall a time in my life where optimizing your health and longevity has been more of a subject that people are interested in.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:34)
Well, I think that's largely because... not to keep blowing smoke up your rear, but largely because of what you did in the book. So the book went global, and it was right in 2019, and the pandemic hit. And I think most people saw their own mortality at that point. Most people under the age of about 70 didn't even think about dying, but then pandemics like, shit, I could die. And I saw the book take off, you launched it.