#2523 - Ali Siddiq

**Joe Rogan** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Jamie** (0:06)
Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

**Ali Siddiq** (0:14)
What's happening?

**SPEAKER_4** (0:14)
Good to see you.

**Ali Siddiq** (0:15)
Same.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:16)
We were just talking, sorry, I had to pause Jamie before the podcast. So, you were telling me that LeBron James is not going to go back to the Lakers. How old is he now?

**Jamie** (0:26)
41

**SPEAKER_4** (0:30)
41 What is the oldest that an elite athlete has been?

**Jamie** (0:35)
Tom Brady is 44, I think, NFL QB. That'd be pretty high up there.

**Ali Siddiq** (0:40)
How old was Kareem?

**SPEAKER_4** (0:43)
That's a good question. How old was Kareem when he retired?

**Jamie** (0:45)
Bernard Hopkins, I think, would be the next.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:47)
Bernard Hopkins is number one.

**Ali Siddiq** (0:49)
Yeah, Bernard.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:50)
We were talking about how he beat Kelly Pavlich at 42

**Ali Siddiq** (0:54)
But Bernard had a couple of years to incubate a little bit.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:59)
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know about that. Yeah. Not take damage and steal up the mind.
He had the most intense discipline. That guy never got out of shape, which is also a giant contributor to longevity. Never was building back. You know, he wasn't like a 42 year old who was like, you know, he took six months off. I haven't been in the gym. No, but no, no, no. Every day it was running nutrition. Everything was always on point. Never buried.

**Jamie** (1:29)
Kareem was like 42, I think.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:31)
So he might be the oldest of the past guys. But this is before all the science, right?

**Ali Siddiq** (1:38)
Yeah, the science changes things. The science.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:40)
So we were just talking about the science. So Jamie, what are they allowed to take and not allowed to take?

**Jamie** (1:45)
I don't know. It's like the NBA used to, I think, for like weed stuff, they used to say that they'd get tested, I think, like October 1st, which is like right when preseason starts.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:55)
For weed?

**Jamie** (1:56)
Yeah. And so like if you, as long as you were clean on October 1st, then you're good because they wouldn't test the rest of the year.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:02)
That's ridiculous.

**Jamie** (2:03)
But now, I know in the NFL, if you have a crazy game, you're going to get tested the next day. They're just going to check you for what was going on with you yesterday.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:12)
Yeah. Why would you play good?

**Jamie** (2:14)
Ridiculous. I don't think the NBA does that specifically, but I don't know, honestly.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:18)
So what are the rules in the NBA in terms of marijuana now? I thought that was part of the thing that they negotiated in the contract to make sure, because a lot of players like to be high when they play.

**Jamie** (2:29)
I think they might just have just stopped testing for it as well.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:33)
I wanted to mention names, but I'm friends with some guys and they tell me they can't play unless they're high.
That's the same thing with pool players. I know a lot of pool players. They like to get lit before they get on the table.

**Ali Siddiq** (2:47)
You should be lit playing pool.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:48)
Yeah, you feel things better.
Here we go. NBA can randomly drug test each player up to four times during the season and two times in the off season with additional tests allowed anytime there is reasonable cause, but marijuana is no longer part of the standard testing panel. Yes, sir.
Yeah, so they can smoke weed, which makes sense. Let them, it's not, what are you doing? It's not hurting anybody and they play better with it. I think, leave them alone. That's what I think. Unless they're doing, unless they're doing meth, unless they're doing, you know what I mean?

**Jamie** (3:20)
They also had another big bedding scandal is kind of broken recently in the last 24 hours there.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:26)
Oh no.

**Jamie** (3:27)
Where a player has been called out for throwing at least four games. And then where that's gonna go from here is kind of being speculated online.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:37)
I'll tell you where that goes. If people find out, it goes to bullets.
That's the problem. The problem with someone throwing a game is somebody bet on that fucking game. A lot of people bet on that game.

**Jamie** (3:47)
Cases I've seen though are like the over. So like they had player props and like he needed 4.5 rebounds and he has four and he's just trying extremely, extremely, extremely hard to get that extra rebound, which is like wrong.