#2522 - Tony Hinchcliffe

**Joe Rogan** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Joe Rogan** (0:06)
Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. What's up?

**Joe Rogan** (0:12)
What's going on? What's happening?

**Tony Hinchcliffe** (0:14)
Chaos, I love it.

**Joe Rogan** (0:15)
Everything.

**Tony Hinchcliffe** (0:16)
Yeah. The world's crazy.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:18)
The center of the storm.

**Joe Rogan** (0:20)
I think the world's back at war today again, like officially, right?
I don't think that agreement with Iran lasted at all. I think there was bombings today in Lebanon, and I think there's bombings today in American bases.
I try to not pay attention, dude. I really do. I try to distract myself with science stuff and space. I was watching this documentary yesterday on how they make chips, like how they make like semiconductor chips. Dude, this fucking machine that they use. I'm going to send you this, Jamie, because it's bananas. It's like one of the most complex machines in the world. And this machine they use to make semiconductors, make chips. And they were explaining the process of making these chips, how fucking nuts it is, man. The amount of atoms that are stacked on like the way they do it to make these like super complex high-end chips. There's people out there, Tony, that are doing things way different than us. Okay? We're out there talking about sucking dicks and people shitting themselves. And what's going on in other parts of the world is people are doing science fiction. Like they're actually doing science fiction.
Here it is. Give me a second. I like to save things. Here it is. The world's most important machine.

**Joe Rogan** (1:56)
It's an hour long.

**Joe Rogan** (1:58)
Yes. Did you find it?

**Joe Rogan** (1:59)
Yeah. Just an hour long. Yeah.

**Joe Rogan** (2:02)
But just go to the, there's some animation where they show how they make these things. Like it was right where you were at.

**Joe Rogan** (2:10)
This is right at the beginning.

**Joe Rogan** (2:11)
Yeah. Okay. So they're just showing some of the different aspects of how these things are made. Look, go back to where that guy had the laser beam. That's perfect, actually, where that guy had the laser beam. So this is him explaining this. So look at this. Back it up a little bit and give me some volume.
Back it up a little bit, please.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:32)
I want to introduce it to you with a thought experiment.
Imagine you are shrunk down to the size of an end, and you're given a laser that's strong enough to melt through metal like butter. Next, a tiny droplet of molten tin, roughly the size of a white blood cell, is shot out in front of you around 250 km per hour. And your task is to hit this not once, not twice, but three times in a row in 20 microseconds with your little laser. Well, that is exactly what this machine does. It hits one tiny tin droplet three times in a row, heating each one up to over 220,000 Kelvin. That's roughly 40 times hotter than the surface of the sun. And it doesn't just hit one droplet, it hits 50,000 droplets every single second. How often do you miss a laser shot?

**Joe Rogan** (3:22)
We don't miss them. What?

**SPEAKER_5** (3:24)
You do 150,000 laser shots a second, and you don't miss one.

**Joe Rogan** (3:29)
Exactly.

**SPEAKER_5** (3:31)
The same machine also contains mirrors that might just be the smoothest objects in the universe. If you scale one up to the size of the Earth, then the largest bump would be no thicker than a playing card.
What the? It is able to overlay one layer of a chip perfectly on top of another and never be off by more than five atoms. And this is all happening while parts of the machine whip around at accelerations of over 20 Gs.
For 30 years, almost everyone thought that actually building this machine was impossible. And yet it exists. There is only one company in the world that can make it. So what is this company and what is this impossible machine they've built? This video is.

**Joe Rogan** (4:13)
That's it.

**Tony Hinchcliffe** (4:13)
Wow.

**Joe Rogan** (4:15)
Yeah.

**Tony Hinchcliffe** (4:15)
What are they doing with that?

**Joe Rogan** (4:17)
All computers, like computer chips that are getting better and better and better. All these AI chips. This is how they make up.

**Joe Rogan** (4:24)
One interesting thing I can just add. I know when they make those, they make a big sheet of chips. You know, like they'll be like 30 or 50 of them.
They'll test each one and the ones that are the best, like to test out like one out of 100, the ones that are like closest to 100 become like the i9 chip. And if it's like 85 out of 100, it becomes like the i7 chip. So they all come off the same sheet. The best ones become the best chips. They sell them for the most money. And the next ones are just a little degraded.