#2504 - Skylar Grey

**SPEAKER_2** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Skylar Grey** (0:06)
Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Great to see you. Great to see you.

**Joe Rogan** (0:13)
What's happening?
This is the power of music. I told my wife that you were coming on, and she said... I don't want to get them on. She said, if I die on my funeral, I want her song, I'm coming home.

**Skylar Grey** (0:33)
Really?

**Joe Rogan** (0:34)
Yeah. I was like, ooh. I was like, that's a heavy thought. And then I listened to it in the gym, and I was like, God damn. I listened to the version where you were on the piano. It was like a solo concert. And I was like, God.
It's such a great song, but it's such a crazy thought that someone would want.

**Skylar Grey** (0:58)
Wow.

**Joe Rogan** (0:59)
A very specific song.

**Skylar Grey** (1:02)
Man. Heavy way to start the podcast.

**Joe Rogan** (1:05)
I know, but that's the emotion of real music. It's like you sent me a text message about AI, you know, because you sent me one of your songs, and you're like, AI is never going to recreate this.

**Skylar Grey** (1:22)
I said something like, I don't think it's capable of writing stuff with this much emotion yet.

**Joe Rogan** (1:28)
Well, it's not real, you know? It sounds cool. That's what AI does. There's cool songs that come from AI, but there's always going to be, and I completely agree with you, there's always going to be a thing, you know, a person wrote it, that they sat down, and they wrote it, and there's this connection with their spirit and their creativity that comes out. And that's what people love about music, other than stuff that sounds.
I like AI music because it sounds cool, but I know what it is. I know it's just a robot.

**Skylar Grey** (2:04)
I mean, I think it's, you know, sometimes it's good for certain things, but the type of music that I make personally, it's like very therapeutic for me to write. I always am writing from like a true emotion, so, yeah, each type of...

**Joe Rogan** (2:22)
Marshall's giving you true emotion right now.

**Skylar Grey** (2:24)
Yeah.
It all has its place though. I think AI is an interesting, it's just like another tool. I feel like that, you know, when Auto-Tune first came out, people were bitching about that. And even like my first albums I recorded with my mom when I was a little kid, we did it on two-inch tape. So there was no computer involved. So then computers got introduced and people were bitching about that, like this isn't real music.

**Joe Rogan** (2:52)
Yeah.

**Skylar Grey** (2:53)
It's just like all these technological advances. To me, I see them as just tools that creatives can use to get their vision across.

**Joe Rogan** (3:03)
What was Peter Frampton using back in the day? It was like a tube or something, right?

**Skylar Grey** (3:07)
I have no idea.

**Joe Rogan** (3:09)
Do you remember, like, you know what that stuff is, Jamie, right? It's a talk box.
It's like a tube you put in your mouth or something?

**Skylar Grey** (3:17)
Yeah.

**Joe Rogan** (3:18)
So it's like a straw and the microphone picks up the sound. So the sound would go through the tube into your mouth, and the microphone picks that up, and you're using your mouth. Because I remember people hating that, like, way back in the day. People were hating that. Like, that's not his real voice. Like, what is he doing? Why is he putting it through that thing?

**Skylar Grey** (3:36)
I don't know.

**Joe Rogan** (3:38)
But there's always, I mean, look, there's always going to be tools that people use to enhance creativity. But the thing that's weird now is that they're making an entire song. They can make a total Skylar Grey category.

**Skylar Grey** (3:51)
And they sound pretty good.

**Joe Rogan** (3:52)
They sound really good.

**Skylar Grey** (3:54)
That's what's crazy.

**Joe Rogan** (3:55)
It's your voice. It's your actual voice.

**Skylar Grey** (3:57)
And it's only going to get better, you know, because it's so new.

**Joe Rogan** (4:01)
Those entire podcasts with me that I never did.

**Skylar Grey** (4:04)
Really?

**Joe Rogan** (4:05)
Yeah, there's a whole conversation with me and Steve Jobs. I never met Steve Jobs. It's just me and Steve Jobs talking about stuff.

**Skylar Grey** (4:11)
Is it the visual too?

**Joe Rogan** (4:12)
No, it's not the visual. This one's just an audio one. But eventually, I'm sure there'll be a visual one of that.