#2494 - Chamath Palihapitiya

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:06)
Shrain by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

**Joe Rogan** (0:12)
Yeah, I was listening to Tim, first of all, hello.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:15)
What's up?

**Joe Rogan** (0:15)
Good to see you, my friend.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:16)
Great to see you.

**Joe Rogan** (0:17)
We were listening to Tim Dillon. I was listening to it on the way over here, and he was talking about Anna Paulina Luna, and Tim Bershett, and Trump. They're all talking about the UAP disclosures, and why now? What are they doing? Why are they distracting us with this?
Tim Bershett said that whatever they're going to release, it will be indigestible.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:39)
What does that mean?

**Joe Rogan** (0:40)
Right.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:41)
Indigestible as in, well, then it doesn't mean that it's real then.

**Joe Rogan** (0:46)
Well, I think it means that it will be so crazy if it's real.
So crazy. He's the one that's been saying that there's these confirmed bases under the ocean, that there's these specific locations. I think you're shaking your head. You don't believe a word of it.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:01)
No.

**Joe Rogan** (1:02)
How come?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:03)
I think it's true that there are... Look, it's completely implausible that there aren't other species.

**Joe Rogan** (1:11)
Right.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:12)
Completely implausible. Just the vastness of what we're dealing with. So the real question is like, why haven't we encountered people, or those things, those beings?

**Joe Rogan** (1:22)
Right.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:23)
And it's probably because they just, they have bigger fish to fry. So by the time that we meet them and they meet us, we're going to kind of be at the edge of like, we've kind of been there, done that on our own planet. And then we've kind of like developed the technology, I guess, to get beyond it.
But somewhere along the way, there must have been a few. Just mathematically impossible. So then the question is, is it buried? Or were people confused when it first came here? Like, if you had a spaceship land in like the 1800s, what would people have done? They would have just freaked out, they wouldn't have understood it, maybe they would have buried it, depending on where it was, maybe they started to pray to it. And you would have just moved on. And then that isn't documented in history.

**Joe Rogan** (2:05)
But it is.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:06)
But how?

**Joe Rogan** (2:07)
It is. There's a lot of it documented in history.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:10)
Oh, you mean like hieroglyphics and like monuments?

**Joe Rogan** (2:12)
Well, the Book of Ezekiel, the Book of Ezekiel goes in depth about some sort of a UFO encounter that Ezekiel experiences. Where it's a wheel within a wheel and a cloud with fire flashing forth continually in the midst of a cloud as it were gleaming metal. And for the midst of it came the likeness of four living creatures and the creatures darted to and fro like the appearance of a flash of lightning. This is all in the Bible. It's also in the Mahabharata.
They talk about Vemanas, these flying crafts. And I think it's entirely possible that we have been visited periodically and that we have been monitored and that we are monitored currently. And if I was going to hide, I would hide in the ocean.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:59)
Well, to be honest, as I get older, I'm convinced we're basically in some form of a simulation. There's like all these little ingredients that if you start to see these little clues, you're like, they all seem so odd in isolation. And then when you put them together, I feel like a crazy person, so I ignore myself. But I wonder, like, why did this happen? Like yesterday, I was at a dinner in LA before I came to see you. And I told this very interesting story. Well, I thought it was interesting at the time.
You know that like, so in 2000, right? If you think of like what happened in tech since 2000, so the last 26 years, people can give you all kinds of like fancy theories.
But there's like this weird word that's been at the center of every single technological revolution for the last 30 years. And that word is attention. Let me explain this to you.
Google, they invent Google. What is Google? Google is an algorithm. It's called PageRank. But if you look inside of it, what is it? It says, well, Chamath's website has five links to it. Joe's website has two links. He's getting more attention. Okay? Chamath's website is more important. That's the sum total of Google. Now, they've made that a lot more refined, and they've done all these other fancy things.