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#2482 - Andy Stumpf

The Joe Rogan Experience

April 14, 2026

Andy Stumpf is a retired Navy SEAL, entrepreneur, record-holding wingsuiter, and host of “Cleared Hot” and “Change Agents.” His new book, “Drownproof: Eight Life Lessons to Keep Your Head Above Water,” is available now.

Speakers Jamie, Andy Stumpf, Joe Rogan

TopicsComedy

Jamie (0:01)

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day!

Andy Stumpf (0:12)

Being a pacifist is the way. Avoid violence at all costs. You know what I mean, Joe?

Joe Rogan (0:16)

Look at you, dog, you're a fucking author.

Andy Stumpf (0:18)

Take it easy, I'm not an author until tomorrow, technically.

Joe Rogan (0:22)

No, you're an author once it's written. I can read it, which makes you an author. I have a book in my hand, which makes you an author.

Andy Stumpf (0:29)

I tell you what, man, you had more of a hand in that book than you would think. Really? Before we started, I had you sign one of the copies, because I'm going to keep it for myself.

The people's names who associated themselves with that, who took a chance on me and supporting me, they have just as much as hands as the monkey who may or may not have been sitting in front of the computer writing out the words very slowly.

Joe Rogan (0:53)

Isn't that the case with everything in life though? I mean, it's really who you know, and like the people that you associate with and what you learn from them and their examples with everything. And then there's no individuals that are responsible entirely for their own life.

Andy Stumpf (1:09)

There are individuals though that would tell you that they are.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

Yeah, but those are the people that I don't hang out with.

Andy Stumpf (1:17)

Yeah, I can't suffer being in the presence of somebody who thinks that they had every idea and every right decision was theirs. Because I look at my own life, one, I can't compete with that because my life is defined by its mistakes and idiotic things I've done.

But two, I just, I don't get it. I'm a product of the people who I was raised by, the people I was around, the people still in my life. I mean.

Joe Rogan (1:37)

100%. We all are. If you don't think that, you're delusional.

You cannot have an exceptional person that's surrounded by dipshits. They just won't, eventually they'll give in to dipshittery. It's contagious. Negative people.

Andy Stumpf (1:55)

You really got me thinking, though, if that is possible. I'm trying to think of an example.

Joe Rogan (1:57)

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have said it's impossible. It could be possible, but it's very highly unlikely. And also, they didn't achieve their full potential, if that's the case. They would have been even better if they had been surrounded by exceptional people.

Andy Stumpf (2:10)

Improbable, at best.

Joe Rogan (2:11)

Yeah, at best. Yeah, I've never seen an example of it. Again, maybe one exists that I don't know about. But as far as all the exceptional people that I know, they all associate with other exceptional people.

Andy Stumpf (2:23)

You know quite a few exceptional people. You have an interesting job that has a Venn diagram that is incredibly unique in the people you've been able to sit down with.

Joe Rogan (2:31)

It's pretty fucking weird.

Andy Stumpf (2:33)

Did you ever think?

Jamie (2:34)

No.

Andy Stumpf (2:34)

First off, by the way, I try to point as many people as possible to JRE Number 1, because I think it's a masterpiece.

Joe Rogan (2:39)

It's a good thing to see.

Jamie (2:41)

Oh my God.

Joe Rogan (2:41)

Because it's terrible.

Andy Stumpf (2:42)

I'm like, wait for the snowflakes. And they go, what the fuck are you talking about?

I'm like, just wait. It's amazing. Could you have ever thought, though, at JRE 1, where I feel like that was you on a laptop video? Yeah, 100%.

Joe Rogan (2:57)

Yeah, 100%.

Andy Stumpf (2:58)

And to where you are now, where you were sitting down and talking to some of the most influential people on the face of planet Earth?

Joe Rogan (3:04)

No. I mean, I think if I planned it out like that, it would have never worked, you know?

Andy Stumpf (3:08)

You would have tried too hard, maybe?

Jamie (3:10)

I don't know what I would have done.

Joe Rogan (3:12)

I mean, I probably would have been more careful, which would have made it less fun, which would have made it less attractive.

You know, I think the two things that I've done that are really important is not pay attention to much online talk about me and just follow my interests and my instincts. Like, I booked the whole thing entirely on instinct. I look at like all the different suggestions that come in and all the different requests to be on the show, and I go, no, how's that?

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