#2470 - Pierre Poilievre

**Jamie Vernon** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:06)
Shrink by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

**Joe Rogan** (0:13)
How are you, sir? Pleasure to meet you.

**Pierre Poilievre** (0:14)
It's great to be here. Thanks for having me. Great to be back in Texas.

**Joe Rogan** (0:17)
I'm glad we finally did this.

**Pierre Poilievre** (0:19)
Yes, me too.

**Joe Rogan** (0:19)
I wanted to do it the first go around.

**Pierre Poilievre** (0:21)
Yeah, I know. Well, when I got the invitation, we were in the middle of the election, and we just don't leave the country during election campaigns.

**Joe Rogan** (0:29)
I get it.

**Pierre Poilievre** (0:29)
And the problem we've had is we can't get you to come to Canada. And so we've actually hatched a full strategy to get you into Canada, because we think it's going to do big things for our tourism numbers. So do you mind if I present you with something right out of the gate?

**Joe Rogan** (0:43)
Sure.

**Pierre Poilievre** (0:44)
All right. This is from a gunsmith and machinist in Calgary, Alberta. His name is Jay, and he's designed... Look at this kettlebell. Guess what the weight is?

**Joe Rogan** (0:56)
Seventy pounds.

**Pierre Poilievre** (0:56)
Seventy pounds.
That's the weight you have. It says on the front here, Jamie, it says here on the front, Jamie, pull it up. We've got, let me see here, some other stuff for a stand.

**Joe Rogan** (1:09)
Oh, wow. That's really cool.

**Pierre Poilievre** (1:11)
Look at this stand here. So we've got, Seeing is Believing, which I think was the slogan of the first UFC that you were the commentator for. I think it was number 13?

**Joe Rogan** (1:20)
12

**Pierre Poilievre** (1:21)
Number 12

**Joe Rogan** (1:21)
That's right.

**Pierre Poilievre** (1:22)
And then we've got here, your favorite quote from, what's his name? The Japanese martial artist.

**Joe Rogan** (1:30)
Miyamoto Musashi?

**Pierre Poilievre** (1:31)
Yes. And it says, If you know the way broadly, you will see it in everything.

**Joe Rogan** (1:36)
Yeah.

**Pierre Poilievre** (1:36)
So that's here. And then Morse code, there's a thank you letter for you. You've got your flying saucer.

**Jamie Vernon** (1:43)
Oh, wow.

**Pierre Poilievre** (1:43)
And we've got your logo here too. So, but most important of all, we've got a subliminal message, which is the Canadian Maple Leaf.

**Jamie Vernon** (1:50)
Oh, cool.

**Pierre Poilievre** (1:51)
So every time you do a kettlebell swing, you do a snatch, you do a clean, you're going to be seeing that maple leaf and you're going to be reminding yourself that you need to come back to Canada.

**Jamie Vernon** (2:01)
All right.

**Pierre Poilievre** (2:02)
All right.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:02)
All right.

**Pierre Poilievre** (2:02)
I'll present that to you there.

**Joe Rogan** (2:05)
Thank you very much. Very cool. Is that in the way, Jamie?

**SPEAKER_3** (2:09)
I'll take it off.

**Pierre Poilievre** (2:10)
We'll take it off.
So, I saw your interview with Pavel. I'm a big kettlebell freak.

**Joe Rogan** (2:22)
Are you really?

**Pierre Poilievre** (2:22)
Yeah, absolutely. I started researching him after you had him on. I love history. So, I was thinking, why did the Russians come up with this?
It turns out they used it as a counterweight at the farmer markets. So, they would say, you come in, you have to say, this is how much potatoes you're buying. But instead of trying to do it by eyeball, they would put what is now a kettlebell on one side of the scale and then the produce on the other. And then at the farmers' expeditions, you had these big Russian farmers who want to show how strong they were. So, they would pick them up and do all kinds of displays with them. And then the Russian army took it on, the Soviet army took it on, and then that's where Pavel picked it up and then brought it over the Atlantic and introduced it to America.

**Joe Rogan** (3:08)
Wow, that's crazy. So, it was just accidental that they made this very functional tool for fitness?

**Pierre Poilievre** (3:14)
Yeah, it was just, you'd go to a farmers' market, you want to buy some barley or some potatoes, but you don't know if you're actually getting the real weight. So, they'd have a scale, a balancing scale, and they'd put the kettlebell on one side and the produce on the other, and then you knew you got the right amount. And then, of course, they have these big farmers' farm fairs, and they're showing off their horses and their cattle and stuff, and they'd want to do strength displays. So, these farmers are throwing these things around, and the Russian military picked it up, and then the Soviets, of course, took over, and they took it on, and then Pavel... I think he was a Belorussian, though, if I'm not mistaken. Pavel. I'm not sure, no. And he brought it over to North America, but the ancient Chinese did it as well. You got...