#2435 - Bradley Cooper

Joe Rogan (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

SPEAKER_3 (0:06)

Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Joe Rogan (0:12)

Hey, Bradley Cooper, what's happening, baby?

Bradley Cooper (0:15)

You know what it's like when, like, a Twilight Zone episode or something, where, like, you're watching the TV. This is an episode where, like, I'm watching the TV.

Joe Rogan (0:22)

And then all of a sudden, you're inside the show.

Bradley Cooper (0:24)

And you're looking at me. Oh. Yeah, and all of a sudden, I'm inside the show. It's crazy.

Joe Rogan (0:28)

It's weird for me, too. It's weird for me that it gets weird for other people, too. Like, when I see people being weird about it, I'm like, it's okay.

Bradley Cooper (0:36)

I feel comfortable, just to tell you that.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

Oh, good. You look comfortable.

Bradley Cooper (0:39)

Yeah, no, no, no. It's excitement.

Joe Rogan (0:41)

It's weird for me. Like, I was trying to explain this to someone. They're like, do people have a hard time being comfortable in the show? I go, I kind of do, too. It's fucking weird.

Bradley Cooper (0:48)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:49)

It's weird that that many people are watching.

Bradley Cooper (0:51)

Yes.

Joe Rogan (0:52)

And then you start thinking, like, oh, don't fuck it up. Don't say that.

Bradley Cooper (0:55)

Right. But if you think about it, the fact that you did this long form set up and that we live in a culture where people at least say that it's all about short term.

Joe Rogan (1:07)

Yeah.

Bradley Cooper (1:08)

It goes against it. The people are interested.

Joe Rogan (1:11)

Yeah. Well, the short term stuff does work, you know? Like short attention span stuff is very popular, even with me. But I have been resisting it more and more lately. I'm like a fucking heroin addict, like slowly weaning myself off the drug. And the more I wean myself, the better I feel, like physically better. My brain works better. I feel more relaxed. I don't feel like this kind of... Like Sugar Sean O'Malley, the UFC fighter, he said, even when I'm just scrolling, even if it's not anything about me, he goes, there's just like a low level anxiety that I get. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Because like, you know you're wasting your time chasing a fix that you're never going to get. And you're just like getting these short drips of like, oh, look at that. Oh, look at that. Scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. But that's not what people really want. What people really want is something engaging, something you go, wow, that's a great documentary, like which are still super popular, like a great documentary. They're still, you know, like huge on Netflix and huge on YouTube.

Bradley Cooper (2:17)

So this Oppenheimer was like three hours long.

Joe Rogan (2:20)

Right, exactly.

Bradley Cooper (2:20)

Made a billion dollars, so people went.

Joe Rogan (2:23)

Humans didn't change. It's just you can hijack their reward system by giving them some short attention span nonsense, and it just like tricks their slow drip dopamine into like continuing to watch this stupid shit. But that's not what they want.

Bradley Cooper (2:36)

No.

Joe Rogan (2:37)

You know, that's not what I want.

Bradley Cooper (2:39)

No. It's the difference between like, yeah, just a little drip of something that has the illusion that I'm getting what I want as opposed to what I actually need, which is sort of a reminder that I exist.

Joe Rogan (2:51)

Yes. Yes.

Bradley Cooper (2:53)

And that I'm communicating with somebody and I can relate to it.

Joe Rogan (2:56)

Yes.

Bradley Cooper (2:56)

Which is a different thing. And I only know this because I've never been on social media, but sometimes, there was one time I got on, somehow got on TikTok and it was all police footage. You know, like, and I was just, I remember laying on my couch, 40 minutes went by and I was just doing this. And there was like the first part of the video and then what happened? And then like the second part, part two.

And that was the only time I experienced I thought I got to stay away from this because I won't leave the house.

SPEAKER_4 (3:20)

It's bad.

Joe Rogan (3:22)

It's bad for you too because it programs you to think that that is going on everywhere in the world. Like if you have 8 billion people that are interacting with people all over the world and you only take the worst examples of that and broadcast it, and then it becomes viral and millions and millions of people think it rewires your way you think about human beings.