#2422 - Jensen Huang

**Joe Rogan** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Jensen Huang** (0:06)
Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

**Jensen Huang** (0:13)
Hey, Joe.

**Joe Rogan** (0:14)
Good to see you again. We were just talking about, was that the first time we ever spoke? Or was the first time we spoke at SpaceX?

**Jensen Huang** (0:20)
SpaceX.

**Joe Rogan** (0:20)
SpaceX was the first time. When you were giving Elon that crazy AI chip.

**Jensen Huang** (0:24)
Right, DJX Spark.

**Joe Rogan** (0:25)
Yeah. Ooh, that was a big moment.

**Jensen Huang** (0:27)
That was a huge moment.

**Joe Rogan** (0:28)
That felt crazy to be there. I was like watching these wizards of tech, like exchange information and you're giving him this crazy device. You know? And then the other time was I was shooting arrows in my backyard and randomly get this call from Trump and he's hanging out with you.

**Jensen Huang** (0:46)
President Trump called and I called you. Yeah, it's just we were talking about you. We were talking about you. He was talking about the UFC thing he was going to do in his front yard.

**Joe Rogan** (0:55)
Yeah.

**Jensen Huang** (0:56)
And he pulls out, he's, Jensen, look at this design. He's so proud of it. And I go, you're going to have a fight in the front lawn in the White House? He goes, yeah. Yeah, you're going to come. This is going to be awesome. And he's showing me his design, how beautiful it is. And he goes, and somehow your name comes up. He goes, do you know Joe? And I said, yeah, I'm going to be on his podcast. He's, let's call him.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:23)
He's like a kid.

**Jensen Huang** (1:24)
I know, let's call him.

**Joe Rogan** (1:25)
It's so, he's like a 79 year old kid.

**Jensen Huang** (1:28)
Oh, he's so incredible.

**Joe Rogan** (1:30)
Yeah, he's an odd guy. Just very different, you know, like what you'd expect from him, very different than what people think of him. And also just very different as a president. A guy who just calls you or texts you out of the blue. Also, he makes, when he texts you, you have an Android, so it won't go through with you. But with my iPhone, he makes the text go big. Like, you know, the USA is respect it again.
Like, all caps and it makes the text enlarge. It's kind of ridiculous.

**Jensen Huang** (2:00)
Well, the 101 Trump, President Trump is very different. He surprised me. First of all, he's an incredibly good listener. Almost everything I've ever said to him, he's remembered.

**Joe Rogan** (2:13)
Yeah, people don't, they only want to look at negative stories about him or negative narratives about him. You know, you can catch anybody on a bad day. Like, there's a lot of things he does where I don't think he should do. Like, I don't think he should say to a reporter, reporter, quiet piggy. Like, that's pretty ridiculous. Also, objectively funny. I mean, it's unfortunate that it happened to her. I wouldn't want that to happen to her, but it was funny. Just ridiculous that the president does that. I wish he didn't do that. But other than that, like, he's an interesting guy. Like, he's a lot of different things wrapped up into one person, you know?

**Jensen Huang** (2:49)
You know, part of his charm, well, part of his genius is just he says what's on his mind.

**Joe Rogan** (2:54)
Yes. Which is like an anti-politician in a lot of ways.

**Jensen Huang** (2:58)
So, you know, what's on his mind is really what's on his mind. Which I think people prefer. I do that, too.

**Joe Rogan** (3:06)
Some people would rather be lied to.

**Jensen Huang** (3:07)
Yeah, but I like the fact that he's telling you what's on his mind. Almost every time he explains something and he says something, he starts with his, you could tell his love for America, what he wants to do for America. And everything that he thinks through is very practical and very common sense. And, you know, it's very logical.
And I still remember the first time I met him. And so this was, I had never known him, never met him before. And Secretary Lutnick called. And we met right before, right at the beginning of the administration. He said, he told me what was important to President Trump, that the United States manufactures onshore. And that was really important to him because it's important to national security. He wants to make sure that the important critical technology of our nation is built in the United States. And that we re-industrialize and get good at manufacturing again, because it's important for jobs.