#2399 - Daryl Davis & Jeff Schoep

Joe Rogan (0:00)

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Daryl Davis (2:23)

Joe Rogan Podcast, checking in.

Joe Rogan (2:25)

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Daryl Davis (2:27)

Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Joe Rogan (2:34)

Gentlemen, good to see you, brother.

Jeff Schoep (2:36)

Hey, good to see you again.

Joe Rogan (2:37)

How you been?

Jeff Schoep (2:37)

I've been hanging, man. How about yourself?

Joe Rogan (2:39)

I'm good, I'm good. And Jeff, nice to meet you as well. Nice to meet you, Joe. This is another one of your very unusual friendships, Daryl.

Jeff Schoep (2:47)

I'm trying to make it the norm, you understand?

Joe Rogan (2:49)

Well, I mean, you're a real example of what can be done just by being a nice person.

Jeff Schoep (2:56)

Hey, thank you, man, for the mention with Bono.

Joe Rogan (3:00)

Oh, my pleasure, my pleasure. So for people that don't know, Daryl has, I mean, how many people now have you converted?

Jeff Schoep (3:10)

I stopped counting after 200 and some.

Joe Rogan (3:13)

Daryl, his journey initially started, you're a musician, you met a Klansman at a bar, and he couldn't believe what a nice guy you were. You struck up a friendship with this guy.

Jeff Schoep (3:22)

And I played like Jerry Lee Lewis, and he didn't understand that.

Joe Rogan (3:26)

That too, the talent. And then this guy quit the Klan because of you, and handed you his outfit and said, like, I'm done. Obviously, I'm wrong. All this is wrong. And you then went on to start meeting a lot of other Klan members and a lot of other, you know, different neo-Nazi factions. And you got a lot of these people to quit these hateful organizations.

Jeff Schoep (3:53)

Well, I got them to rethink, because I gave them things, perspectives, they had not considered before or not been exposed to. And that caused them to quit. You know, it wasn't like I was trying to get them out. I was just trying to show them a different path.

Joe Rogan (4:09)

Right. But it's just your patience and your ability to communicate to people is just very admirable. Because that's a very tough path. You know, you, for people just listening, you're a black man, you're meeting a Klansman, and you strike up a friendship. You have one of them having dinner at his house, hanging out with him, and he's like, you're actually a really nice guy. He's like, fuck, what the fuck am I doing with my life? And just by your own personality, and just being a good human, you converted him.