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#2398 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

The Joe Rogan Experience

October 22, 2025

Francis Foster is a comic and author of "Classroom Confidential: The Truth About Being a Teacher and Why You Should Never Become One." Konstantin Kisin is a political commentator and author of "An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West." Together, they host the podcast "Triggernometry.

Speakers Joe Rogan, Francis Foster, Konstantin Kisin, Jamie

TopicsComedy

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Joe Rogan (1:00)

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Francis Foster (1:34)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

SPEAKER_4 (1:36)

Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

Joe Rogan (1:42)

So what's happening?

Konstantin Kisin (1:43)

It's all good, man.

Joe Rogan (1:44)

When are you bailing out of your country?

Francis Foster (1:45)

Sinking.

Joe Rogan (1:47)

That is the fucking Titanic and you were one of the last deckhands.

Konstantin Kisin (1:51)

We're gonna stand and fight, man.

Francis Foster (1:53)

Are you really?

Konstantin Kisin (1:54)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:54)

Good luck.

Konstantin Kisin (1:55)

No, we are.

SPEAKER_6 (1:56)

Good luck.

Konstantin Kisin (1:57)

As long as it's still okay.

Joe Rogan (1:58)

They arrest you for saying stand and fight. It's the sightment of violence.

SPEAKER_6 (2:03)

Yeah.

Konstantin Kisin (2:04)

Yeah. No, but it's interesting. I mean, obviously you had Graham Linehan on the show. We're gonna have him on as well soon to talk about it. But they're not gonna prosecute him. And not only that, they also said they are not going to investigate non-crime hate incidents anymore. Do you know what those are?

Joe Rogan (2:22)

Oh, interesting.

Konstantin Kisin (2:23)

It's basically when you've committed no crime, but you're still like hateful.

Francis Foster (2:27)

Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan (2:28)

But that's also very subjective too.

Konstantin Kisin (2:31)

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_6 (2:31)

Of course.

Konstantin Kisin (2:31)

So they're not gonna investigate them anymore.

Joe Rogan (2:34)

Yeah.

Konstantin Kisin (2:34)

But they're still gonna keep track of them is what they said.

Joe Rogan (2:37)

Oh, keep track. We've got an eye on you.

Konstantin Kisin (2:41)

We're gonna make a record of it, but won't investigate.

Joe Rogan (2:43)

So are they gonna stop arresting people for social media posts then?

Konstantin Kisin (2:47)

What do you think Joe?

Joe Rogan (2:48)

I think no.

Konstantin Kisin (2:49)

I think it's profitable.

Joe Rogan (2:50)

It's probably a nice fine, right? What do you get? You get a fine?

Konstantin Kisin (2:54)

I don't think it's about that. I think during the uber woke era, they put all these laws on the statute book, and the police have to enforce the law, right? They have no choice because if a bunch of people complain and then they don't investigate the people that have been reported, Oh, that's what it's all about? They get in trouble. Of course. Like you know police officers, right? Police officers don't like enforcing these dumb laws. Of course. It's put on them from above.

Joe Rogan (3:20)

Yeah, I just didn't know that all that stuff was put in place in your country during the woke era.

Konstantin Kisin (3:25)

Yeah, it was.

Joe Rogan (3:25)

In the heavy rope. It's almost like a fever dream. You know, when you really go back and pay attention to some of the more insane woke stuff from like just five years ago.

Konstantin Kisin (3:35)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:36)

Like everyone was losing their fucking mind. But like if I was an elite, if I was one of those lizard people running the world, I'd have been like, well, looky here. This is really interesting. Like this was just a cold. It was just a cold and a little bit of social media input. And we got these people behaving in a way that they'd never behaved before. Admitting to things they'd never admitted to before, adhering to rules that never existed before.

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